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Re: F16 Euros 2006 [Re: Blueblast] #59919
10/30/05 06:31 PM
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That is bad news !

I dare say that we'll see Martien with a Superwing mast and an Ashby sail next year. When you see him tell him that Dynautic ( www.dynautic.com ) has a few of these in store.

Wouter


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Re: F16 Euros 2006 [Re: Wouter] #59920
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Hey Victor, did you join the oktoberbokaal? What with all the DNC's? How about JP en HJ, second overall!
greetz from the warm south!
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Re: F16 Euros 2006 [Re: ] #59921
10/31/05 04:52 PM
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It’s been the 3rd time for my cosealer that he was racing.

We want to seal 3 weekends.
It’s been a bit ruff.
The first weekend (frost 5 to 6). We were swimming 3 times.
Second weekend was al most the same wind (Big gust).
Last Sunday only one swim.



Victor
Re: F16 Euros 2006 [Re: Blueblast] #59922
11/05/05 03:08 AM
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Ref: http://www.sailing.org/meetings/2005november/papers/sub_024.pdf

I guess this proposal is designed to block any 'Euros' and events like it running under different names. "To protect the integrity of the sport of sailing", got to love that statement in the proposal..

Re: ISAF RRS New rule [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #59923
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I see what you're driving at Rolf, but surely it's aimed at simply stopping non-approved race meetings using words like "the ISAF RRS shall apply...." in their SIs?

The way around it is to publish a set of rules for the event/class that are to all intents the same as the existing ISAF rules but just with a different name?

'The F16 Catamaran Class Racing Rules for F16 Events'


John Alani
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ISAF and our UK based invitational event [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #59924
11/05/05 05:05 AM
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Well, we're safe thenm as we are not going to hold an F16 Europeans championship event, just another throphy cup event which name is still unspecified at this time. And who says that we're using the ISAF racing rules ? Seems to me that we are using plain centuries old rules of maritime right of way. And as far as I know ISAF can't claim copyright to the use of the English language either. Or acquire a patent on the use of died cloths that are displayed by use of the wind to communicate between vessels.

So I really don't understand what the fuss is all about.

If ISAF is opposited to having anything to do with any event not paying them "protection money" then I don't think it will cause those events much problems.

Lets face it, how hard is it to write down the century old right-of-way rules in a summary and expand these with some extra rules to govern the way boat starts and rounds bouys. Halve the ISAF rules on these points are a monster in themselfs anyway and most sailors either don't know them or don't know how to intepretate them properly. Actually I would be a good opportunity to clear out the weed from such racing rules and get back to a clear and simple set of rules; something we will all apppreciate.

Hell, at my club were are already racing of a (self composed) simplified set of racing rules. We have only one start sequence and neither do we fly or display the ISAF insignia or mandated class flags. For some strange reason nobody has died during the racing just yet, neither did we receive any comments from by-standers that we are degrading the sport by excluding rule "13.7.1.3.subarticle z, revision 2".

I'm looking forward to our invitational event to be held in the UK in 2006. Besides the UK isn't part of Europe anyway so even if we wanted to organise a European championship then how could we have it there?

Wouter



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Re: ISAF and our UK based invitational event [Re: Wouter] #59925
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Just run it as an F16 open event, all sailors welcome and use the stand SI's the ISAF uses.

Just don't call it a "euro's"

Simple.

Just because loads of F16's are in the same place, trying to win a nice trophy; a European Championship it does not make.



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Re: ISAF and our UK based invitational event [Re: Wouter] #59926
11/05/05 12:26 PM
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Besides the UK isn't part of Europe anyway...


I guess I don't know my geography too well.


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Re: ISAF and our UK based invitational event [Re: ejpoulsen] #59927
11/05/05 02:42 PM
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Besides the UK isn't part of Europe anyway...


I guess I don't know my geography too well.


Where does that leave me ? - I'm further west

Maybe we're the 51st US State


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Re: ISAF and our UK based invitational event [Re: Dermot] #59928
11/06/05 05:04 AM
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This event is canclelled please see 4 nations trophy instead


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Re: F16 Euros 2006 [Re: john p] #59929
11/15/05 01:19 PM
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Hi all
I am new to this fourm and F16 sailing.
I collect my new Stealth 16 in the new year and will be joining in some of the events.

Jan and I sail at the isle of sheppey sailing club and our club may be able to hold an event of some kind.

Is this of interest?

Alan T

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