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#65325 01/24/06 08:43 AM 01/24/06 08:43 AM |
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 4,451 West coast of Norway Rolf_Nilsen
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Posts: 4,451 West coast of Norway | Forum regular, Mike Dobbs aka "Tornado" is in Miami to sail the RMOCR, but they have quite a lot of trouble with their chartered Tornado  Crewing for Mike is Christopher Stater, former olympic Tornado participant. Chris was born in '52, so he is probably one of the older sailors in the fleet. How about it Rick, ready to go for the "geriatric" price next year as skipper?  I volunteer to come over and trim sails for you both up and downwind. Hope to see Mike sailing on some of the pictures and the video later in the week. He is (as always) posting some great reports on the TornadoCat Yahoo list. | | | Re: RMOCR
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#65331 01/26/06 03:23 PM 01/26/06 03:23 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | Wow ... that must be a super tough crowd. How long have Olli and Kelly been on a Tornado?
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#65333 01/26/06 03:42 PM 01/26/06 03:42 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,116 Annapolis, MD Mark Schneider
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Posts: 3,116 Annapolis, MD | One race left today... Johnny and Charlie have a commanding lead going into the medal round with 4 bullets so far!
Robbie and Henry seem to be struggling in the breezier conditions and are hanging onto 8th place right now. I believe the top 10 continue onto the medal race.
I don't know if rest of the fleet races tommorow or not? Anyone?
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#65335 01/26/06 10:25 PM 01/26/06 10:25 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,116 Annapolis, MD Mark Schneider
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Posts: 3,116 Annapolis, MD | So, Johnny and Charlie have a 20 point lead going into the medal race. They score it double points and you can't drop the last race. So... if they are DFL they have 20 more points and their closest competitor has 2 more points.... They win by 2!... Outstanding!
What do you think about the split fleet and scoring system?
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[Re: Rolf_Nilsen]
#65338 01/27/06 08:47 AM 01/27/06 08:47 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | I dont think ISAF went far enough. The system is still complicated, and the winner can as you say still be declared before moving into the final races (barring equipment failure). So even if someone dominates for days in an event they should be able to loose in the last final races? I'm not exactly sure how I feel about that. Do we really need a "playoffs" in a week long event where one gear failure could destroy your winning opportunity? It makes me nervous just thinking about it...but then again - perhaps that's the point.
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#65339 01/27/06 09:41 AM 01/27/06 09:41 AM |
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Posts: 4,451 West coast of Norway | I dont like it either, but then I know how to count points and am comfortable with letting the victor be decided on the results from a standard series. The change was forced upon sailing becouse the sport was not TV friendly enough. If it is to be "TV friendly", you need to be able to be able to explain who wins easily, and in 15 seconds  I bet what the IOC and their broadcast managers really want, is one race and first to finish is the winner. Or eventually a series of qualifications like for the 100meters sprint, where the finals decides everything. On water judges (instant justice [tm]), electronic checking of OCS and everything. Perhaps that would have been a better model to get more TV coverage? I doubt it. If we want to make it a TV sport, the whole sport should be re-worked in my opinion. I dont want that to happen.. The model I described has been tested at our nationals for the last years, and it's what our national assoc. worked for at the ISAF meeting where the current format was decided. Letting the top three teams from the series start on zero, and race for first, second and third isn't that bad. At least you have more than one chance, and it's easy to explain and add up the points. But as Mary says, it will be interesting to hear what the participants at Miami have to say. | | |
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