| Drag reduction #65766 01/30/06 06:00 AM 01/30/06 06:00 AM |
Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... Mary OP
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Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... | Everybody spends a lot of time figuring out how to make their boats go faster with changes in this and that. But I don't hear much about all the little things that can be done to also reduce drag.
Sailing is like a profit-and-loss statement. Profits (speed) will increase, if we can reduce expenditures (drag).
So what are all the things, large and small, that we can do to prevent, eliminate or reduce drag, both in terms of the boat (below and above the water surface) and the stuff on the boat and the people on the boat? | | | Re: Drag reduction
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#65768 01/30/06 08:21 AM 01/30/06 08:21 AM |
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,382 Essex, UK Jalani
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Posts: 1,382 Essex, UK | Use leech telltales on the main Fit telltales (with windows) about 20% back from the mast Tape over all fittings in the rigging Put calibration marks on all adjustable rig controls so that settings can be replicated quickly Fit slot gaskets to centreboard slots and brushes/carpet to daggerboard slots Don't let your hulls touch anything other than water Sail your boat so that the bottom of the transom is level(ish) with the water surface oh yeah, get yourself a crew with an aerofoil shaped head!
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#65769 01/30/06 08:44 AM 01/30/06 08:44 AM |
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Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... | oh yeah, get yourself a crew with an aerofoil shaped head! I think about this all the time -- how to make my body and clothing more aerodynamic on the boat, so that I create less drag. Not just the shape of my clothing, but whether it is loose like a drysuit or tight like a wetsuit, and whether certain materials will tend to create more drag than others. I even used to reprimand Rick if he didn't shave his face before a race, because I was afraid his whiskers were going to create drag. But, on the other hand, maybe whiskers are good because they keep air from attaching to your face? Would whiskers be good on a hull to reduce water drag? | | | Re: Drag reduction
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#65770 01/30/06 09:00 AM 01/30/06 09:00 AM |
Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,669 Melbourne, Australia Tornado_ALIVE
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Posts: 1,669 Melbourne, Australia | oh yeah, get yourself a crew with an aerofoil shaped head! I think about this all the time -- how to make my body and clothing more aerodynamic on the boat, so that I create less drag. Me too, Come to the conclusion............ Drink less beer | | | Re: Drag reduction
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#65771 01/30/06 09:06 AM 01/30/06 09:06 AM |
Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... Mary OP
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Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... | Come to the conclusion............ Drink less beer On the contrary, in order to achieve the perfect raindrop shape, like a Hobie bob, I probably need to drink MORE beer. When I was in college, I lived across from the natatorium, and I used to watch the divers. One of the best divers on the team was the fattest one on the team, shaped a lot like a Hobie bob. He was the one who made the least splash when he entered the water. | | | Re: Drag reduction
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#65773 01/31/06 12:06 PM 01/31/06 12:06 PM |
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 807 Hillsborough, NC USA Isotope235
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Posts: 807 Hillsborough, NC USA | Well, I don't worry much about drag. I know someone who coated his hulls with teflon, and someone who wet-sanded with 400-grit perpendicular to the water flow to create micro-turbulence, and someone who taped over his head outlet in attempts to go faster.
I admit that these things may reduce drag, I just don't believe that they make a truly significant difference at my level. There are other actions that are much more important. I prefer to focus on those.
For example, raising a center/daggerboard is the last tweak I make going downwind and the first one I undo approaching a leeward mark. If the wind is up, I may not move them at all. All the gain (and more) from lifting the board will instantly be lost if you forget to lower it before rounding up. Likewise, you'll lose out if you fail to maintain foresail trim while playing with the boards.
I never bother to raise a rudder because I can't measure the gain from reduced drag, but I can see the loss from neglecting other things.
I sail a lot faster if I concentrate on where the puffs are, than if I worry about my body's wind resistance.
Maybe it becomes significant in Olympic racing, but I've never sailed in a regatta where the winner's success was due to low drag.
Contrarily yours, Eric | | | Re: Drag reduction
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#65775 01/31/06 12:46 PM 01/31/06 12:46 PM |
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Posts: 807 Hillsborough, NC USA | ... and someone who taped over his head outlet in attempts to go faster  What? His ears, mouth, and nose? Shhh! Don't give him any ideas.  I want to crew for him again. | | | Re: Drag reduction
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#65776 01/31/06 12:49 PM 01/31/06 12:49 PM |
Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... Mary OP
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Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... | I've never sailed in a regatta where the winner's success was due to low drag. But I bet you have been in a lot of regattas where a loser's lack of success was due to drag -- things like dragging the mainsheet overboard or flying a pirate flag off the leech of the main, or hooking the jib into the back of the main or not having the mast rotated properly, or having a saggy trampoline..... | | |
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