Man, that boat is quoted in the add to have had a 2003 new value (buying price) of 32.000 Euro's ; it is now after 2 seasons of sailing on offer for 14.750 Euro = 46 % of 2003 new price. That was 8500,- euro devaluation (over 25%) per season !

That is one way to get rid of some excess money !

Simply amazing that some owners can accept such a drain on their resources. Yeah I say that this is a bargain price for that M20.

Wouter

Just checked with some fellow multihullers here in Norway, who was very active in the F-28 class while it existed. The design shown on the website dont measure in to the class rules as they were. Hulls dont have enough headrooom and there are many things about the rig that is not optimum for a true F-28. They think it looks more like a CDK F-28 from 1988 that has been converted into a cruiser. Final comment was "Nice boat, but no Formula-28. Perhaps somebody found some old moulds they could use and live on the F-28 name..". Their opinion, but still a nice boat.

The Ventilo M2 (28 ft.) weighs in at 375kg according to the website of ventilo.
And it is very fast! In the last Bol d'or at the lake of geneva the M2 beat all but one of the Descision 35 on elapsed time and made it to second overall.

i've actually been to the Vannes Boat Show and met the MCM people there.
no way they used old moulds! they made new ones according the architects plans... and, i'm not a specialist, but i think nigel irens is and knows how to make a F28!!

yeah, right, of course this is the best!!
just for fun, any idea of how much it costs?

>any idea of how much it costs?
100'000 SFR ~ 64'000 Euro ~ 77'000 USD (without VAT)

The crazy thing is, that Ventilo (Favre) has allot of orders for the M2. Last thing I heard, he sold something like 10 M2 in the last year

Herve, I also think Nigel Irens know how to draw a F-28, but like I said, this does not look like a Formula-28. Perhaps the marketing guys at MCM ran a bit wild with it, or they dont refer to the same Formula 28 rules as I think about? After all, the class is dead, so perhaps they have made some new rules? Formula 28 boats are not exactly family oriented, they are racers, so the market for a pure F-28 is very limited. At the end of the class, they raised the minimum weight and did other rule changes to try to make the boats more versatile. But it did not work and was the end of the class.
The MCM boat lacks the accomodation area specified in the class, the boom is shorter than max, the bowsprit is not at max length (can be 1.6 meters in front of the bows), the mainsail and solent lacks area.. It would be left in the wake behind a proper F-28.
Besides, why would Nigel Irens draw a new F-28 in 2005, when the class has been dead for more than 10 years with no signs of resurrection?

Not to boast, but the guys I referred to earlier probably have loads more experience in the F-28 class than Nigel Irens. They won the F-28 worlds three times in a row with their own homebuildt design "XOZ" (pronounced Exocet, like the SAS missile).
http://www.flerskrog.org/Flerskrog/Flerskrog_Index_Images/XOZ1.jpg
http://www.flerskrog.org/Flerskrog/Flerskrog_Index_Images/XOZ2.jpg

Wouter, I am no good at posting photos. I have just received an email from MCM with photos attached.
Maybe you already have them, but I will forward the email to you.

This is what I got in email with pics. Think racing version is less kg with a longer mast.

Doug

Here are the spec info:

Architects: Benoît Cabaret / Nigel Irens
Length over all: 8,50 meters
Beam: 5,17 meters
Draft: 1,70 meters
Weight: 850 kgs
Mainsail area: 30 m²
Solent area: 9,50 m²
Spinnaker: 60 m²

Price: 38 100 euros including taxes or 31 850 euros without taxes.

Yes, that's the same email.

>It would be left in the wake behind a proper F-28.

that's for sure! no way the MCM 28' can compete with the Ventilo machine! i think, what they tried to do, is build a boat that can enter the F-28 class (even if far from being optimum), while comfortable enough for family day-boat outings

> Besides, why would Nigel Irens draw a new F-28 in 2005, when the class has been dead for more than 10 years with no signs of resurrection?

MCM probably asked him.

sure it is no boat to beat wordlrecords with!
still, to me, looks like a good balance between speed and day boat.