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Curiosity killed the Cat #69265
03/15/06 03:13 PM
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from a mid-westerner living a sheltered (Hobie/Nacra/Solcat/Trac) life...What is this? A Shark?

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Re: Curiosity killed the Cat [Re: _flatlander_] #69266
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No clue!

Re: Curiosity killed the Cat [Re: fin.] #69267
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Looks like a Dart 18

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Re: Curiosity killed the Cat [Re: _flatlander_] #69268
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I can't make out any detail with the beams or the daggerboards - but it looks like a Prindle 18-2 or a Prindle 19...except that I don't recall them having bridel tangs onthe outsides of the hulls (Doesn't the Dart 18 have skegs instead of boards?)

http://www.performancecat.com/prindle/pdffiles/Prindle18-2.pdf

http://www.performancecat.com/prindle/pdffiles/Prindle19.pdf


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Re: Curiosity killed the Cat [Re: _flatlander_] #69269
03/15/06 03:26 PM
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Looks like a Dart18?

Re: Curiosity killed the Cat [Re: Jake] #69270
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I can't make out any detail with the beams or the daggerboards - but it looks like a Prindle 18-2 or a Prindle 19...both good boats.

http://www.performancecat.com/prindle/pdffiles/Prindle18-2.pdf

http://www.performancecat.com/prindle/pdffiles/Prindle19.pdf


Could be the camera angle, but the forward cant of these hulls looks more pronounced than the sideviews of the Prindles.

Any pic's of the Dart? And BTW, they say it's an 18 footer.

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Re: Curiosity killed the Cat [Re: _flatlander_] #69271
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Without an accurate scale it is difficult to be 100% sure, but I am 99.9% sure it's a Dart 18.

It has oval beams, no plates.


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Re: Curiosity killed the Cat [Re: _flatlander_] #69272
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It's a Dart.

If you go to Google images and type in 'Dart 18' you'll get a lot of good pictures. This one has a good shot of the bows:

http://www.peter.cruickshank.btinternet.co.uk/Timeout/Sailing.HTM

Sharks are WAY different.


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Re: Curiosity killed the Cat [Re: _flatlander_] #69273
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100% Dart 18 - no doubt

Enjoy your sailing


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Re: Curiosity killed the Cat [Re: TEAMVMG] #69274
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Wait a minute! It could be a Dart 20. Photo seems stretched a bit but still, it could be a 20.

Re: Curiosity killed the Cat [Re: _flatlander_] #69275
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The picture you are looking at is a dart 18 probably around the late 1980's vintage.

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How can you tell the vintage, I tought the Dart 18 was strict one-design?

Re: Curiosity killed the Cat [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #69277
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How can you tell the vintage, I tought the Dart 18 was strict one-design?


You can have some idea via colour schemes.

It's 100% Dart 18. Done some more diffing around.

Not a Dart 20


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Re: Curiosity killed the Cat [Re: scooby_simon] #69278
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How can you tell the vintage, I tought the Dart 18 was strict one-design?


You can have some idea via colour schemes.


Yea the inner hull waterline was on Dart 18s from the early 90s.
I owned 5 Dart 18s in a row from the late 80s to mid 90s.


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Re: Curiosity killed the Cat [Re: Dermot] #69279
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Sharks had hard decks.
Dart 20.


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Re: Curiosity killed the Cat [Re: arbo06] #69280
03/16/06 08:42 AM
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Dart 18 before 1984? when the stripe on the side changed to a wide slash stripe. I had the one with the wide slash marking on the side before the one I now have with the center double line. Single stripes have been on and off since the early 70's. See 8th photo at http://www.tampabaycatsailors.com/2006_hangover_pics.htm for the double line. The class never changed much except for the gelcoat design on the side. Have fun get it out on the water. The designer Rodney March did a great job along with Kim at Panthercraft. They started the first GPR Olympic Tornado.


Terry
Re: Curiosity killed the Cat [Re: dartfast] #69281
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Dart 18 before 1984? when the stripe on the side changed to a wide slash stripe. I had the one with the wide slash marking on the side before the one I now have with the center double line. Single stripes have been on and off since the early 70's. See 8th photo at http://www.tampabaycatsailors.com/2006_hangover_pics.htm for the double line. The class never changed much except for the gelcoat design on the side. Have fun get it out on the water. The designer Rodney March did a great job along with Kim at Panthercraft. They started the first GPR Olympic Tornado.

The dart in the photo does not look too good, so I would not argue about its age. Anyone know its sail number? Darts stick to their sail numbers - unlike Hobie - so you (almost) always know the year.
My first Dart 18 was a '86, with red stripes where you have blue. It was the boat used in Brian Phipps book, "The Catamaran Book". I bought it directly from Kim Stephens - it was our first demo Dart in Ireland.
I remember an '83 boat, sail no. 2589 that had a thin stripe similar to the Dart in the photo. The 90s Darts had a black stripe in the gelcoat - but only on the inner side of the hull.


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