| Newbie Trap Harness Question #72325 04/10/06 12:46 PM 04/10/06 12:46 PM |
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 33 Oklahoma City, OK alan_ellis OP
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Posts: 33 Oklahoma City, OK | Hello, I'm very new to cat sailing. I recently bought a 1985 Hobie 16 (for a song) which is in excellent condition. It's pretty much ready to sail but I need a trapeze harness. I've checked on Murrays.com and looked at the various harnesses but there are several different models and styles. My sailing is going to be on a 2500 acre lake so I probably won't be out on trap for long periods of time before I have to change direction. Anyway, I need a recommendation for a harness for the wife and I. I appreciate all responses and help. Oh, here's a pic of my boat. http://www.jackieandalan.com/images/hobie16.jpgAlan | | | Re: Newbie Trap Harness Question
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Posts: 221 North Carolina | Alan, I am almost sorry to hear that you got an '85 H-16 for a low price since I own one and don't want the price to go down ![](http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif) . I use the standard Hobie harness that has the full shoulder straps. I find it is much more comfortable than the so called "butt bucket". You may plan to just sail on the small lake but my guess is that you will trailer the boat to other bodies of water once you get used to it. You will enjoy it. I bought my boat new in '85 and have been sailing it for 21 years. Howard | | | Re: Newbie Trap Harness Question
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Posts: 33 Oklahoma City, OK | Howard, Thanks for the info. I paid $850 with trailer and extra sails. It has been parked in an enclosed barn for 7 years. I think the guy just wanted to get rid of it. I obliged him. ![](http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif) AE | | | Re: Newbie Trap Harness Question
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Posts: 33 Oklahoma City, OK | Hi - and welcome to the exciting world of Hobie Cat sailing. For what it's worth, I really like the magic Marine Pro Mesh harness: Mmmmm....looks good. What does something like that cost? Also, I'm using a Stohlquist Drift pfd. Can you use that harness with a pfd? Do you guys use pfds? Thanks. AE | | | Re: Newbie Trap Harness Question
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Posts: 123 Syracuse, NY | 1st off - always wear a PDF. Yes I wear an Extrasport PDF over that harness, My wife has a Hobie Harness and she wears the Harness over her PDF. It's all a matter of preference. The Pro-mesh is around $130.00 I guess. I can't remember. They have a Dealer Locator that may help you out. Magic Marine is not hard to find. The Hobie Harness is a good one too. I like full for back support - but in light or flukie air I will wear a butt bucket / Half harness, if there is a lot of in and out.
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The Hobie Full Auto harnesses are great. Very adjustable and quite confortable. Don't get a butt bucket. They have no back support. US Sail Level 2 Instructor US Sail Level 3 Coach | | | Re: Newbie Trap Harness Question
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Posts: 33 Oklahoma City, OK | since you're not going to be trapped out for long periods at a time, back support is not that big of an issue That's what I'm thinking. But I plan to ask around a bit. We have a big cat community here in OKC, so I'll check and see what everyone else is doing. | | | Re: Newbie Trap Harness Question
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Posts: 5,582 “an island in the Pacifi... | since you're not going to be trapped out for long periods at a time, back support is not that big of an issue That's what I'm thinking. But I plan to ask around a bit. We have a big cat community here in OKC, so I'll check and see what everyone else is doing. Try a butt bucket first and then a full harness. That should help you decide. US Sail Level 2 Instructor US Sail Level 3 Coach | | | Re: Newbie Trap Harness Question
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Posts: 1,187 38.912, -95.37 | That's what I'm thinking. But I plan to ask around a bit. We have a big cat community here in OKC, so I'll check and see what everyone else is doing. [/quote] Hi Alan, Get out there to Lake Hefner, get that thing wet, find out what harness works for you guys and join in on the festivities the 29th and 30th of this month!
John H16, H14
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Posts: 53 The Netherlands, Europe | Alan, About 1/2 year ago a similar subject was actual on the forum, "Looking for harness recommendation". Might give some additional information. I tried some before buying one. And sailing quite often alone I use the trapeze any moment I can. Surely big part of all the fun ![](http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif) - also also on short tacking courses!!! Good luck Eddie Hobie # 99173
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Posts: 66 Fort Lauderdale, FL, USA | As a male, a bigger consideration than full or half harness might be crotched (diaper) or crotchless design. ![](http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif) I prefer crotchless, though a bit more hassle to get on/off. Women don't seem to care as much, one way or the other, lol. OTOH, some hardcore offshore type guys wear a jock+cup (plus shin guards, helmets, etc.), in case they end up straddling a spar, so the diaper kind works fine and even adds more padding, "just in case". Something to consider... | | | Re: Newbie Trap Harness Question
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Posts: 1,187 38.912, -95.37 | two cents? Maybe we should up the antie.
Nappy or crotchless? We have two full Nappy (Musto) and one full crotchless (old school Murray's). All are one size too large, in order to get the spreader bar in the proper position (i.e. so it doesn't grind into your pelvic bone while in use or on tramp). Neither of us like the crotchless at all, it fatigues the legs sooner, and is not as comfortable. We usually sail for four to six hours at a go and are trapped out when possible (most of the time is windy enough).
We have worn one layer of fabric off the seat of the Mustos. Probably mostly due to dinghie sailing on boat with non skid gunwhales. But, like having good knees and seats in foul weather attire it's something I'll check closer before the next purchase.
John H16, H14
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Posts: 1,187 38.912, -95.37 | Agreed, buckles are out of the question. I/we haven't tried any newer crotchless, but are happy with the new nappy (sorry) and the price was right. Got ours on close-out (probably do to preconcieved notion they are uncomfortable).
It's been said already but, try as many as possible before you buy. We're all human an therefore shaped differently.
John H16, H14
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