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Tybee - Day 6 Fernandina to Tybee Island #75397
05/19/06 08:43 AM
05/19/06 08:43 AM
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So here it is the last day of the Tybee. This is the longest leg of the race.

Racers have to deal with 1000's of stingrays that lurk about a foot beneath the surface of the water. I must have seen over a 1000 on my trip to Tybee last year. They also have to judge big trowlers to keep clear of their nets. At times it seems the trowlers turn toward you just to cause you trouble.

Good Luck to the Fleet,
Mike Hill
www.stlouiscats.com


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Re: Tybee - Day 6 Fernandina to Tybee Island [Re: Mike Hill] #75398
05/19/06 09:18 AM
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Thursday, Day 5 video has been posted including more plane cam shots!

Also, the Wednesday Day 4 video had about 5 minutes missing (including the "lost" story of what happened to JW) at the end of it, Im reposting it now and it should be up by 11am.

Brian

Tad is back on the boat with Team Velocity.

Re: Tybee - Day 6 Fernandina to Tybee Island [Re: BrianK] #75399
05/19/06 09:51 AM
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Can not wait for the FINALLEY, specially for Velocity Sailing. This is going to be good. Cant wait for the video. Brian you are doing a bad butt job on the videos. I am sure others like myself thank you, because we can see the action from the comfort of our homes.

Re: Tybee - Day 6 Fernandina to Tybee Island [Re: Mike Hill] #75400
05/19/06 01:15 PM
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So here it is the last day of the Tybee. This is the longest leg of the race.

Racers have to deal with 1000's of stingrays that lurk about a foot beneath the surface of the water. I must have seen over a 1000 on my trip to Tybee last year. They also have to judge big trowlers to keep clear of their nets. At times it seems the trowlers turn toward you just to cause you trouble.

Good Luck to the Fleet,
Mike Hill
www.stlouiscats.com


With so many rays so close below the surface, do you pull the boards or try to navigate between them?

Re: Tybee - Day 6 Fernandina to Tybee Island [Re: BrianK] #75401
05/19/06 10:28 PM
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Brian, Thanks for answering about Tad. Thanks too for integrating your videos into the total coverage of the race the way you did! I watched most right here, but I was usually at 4 sites checking for reports every day, and watched at various sites over the week. As a fan, I want to thank everyone involved for such a great week's entertainment! With no Chaos, or Oz this year, I was rooting for my friends on Seacats and Velocity, though I must confess rooting for Cat in The Hat too! My hat is off to you all.

Re: Tybee - Day 6 Fernandina to Tybee Island [Re: Brian_Mc] #75402
05/21/06 08:01 AM
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The day 6 video has been posted to the video player.

You may now preorder the 2006 Tybee 500 DVD on www.AdventureOnline.TV

The DVD will be available in early June 2006. Preorder the DVD now and save 20% (only $19.95). Once the DVD is released the price will return to $24.95.

Enjoy,
Brian

Re: Tybee - Day 6 Fernandina to Tybee Island [Re: Keith] #75403
05/21/06 08:28 AM
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So here it is the last day of the Tybee. This is the longest leg of the race.

Racers have to deal with 1000's of stingrays that lurk about a foot beneath the surface of the water. I must have seen over a 1000 on my trip to Tybee last year. They also have to judge big trowlers to keep clear of their nets. At times it seems the trowlers turn toward you just to cause you trouble.

Good Luck to the Fleet,
Mike Hill
www.stlouiscats.com


With so many rays so close below the surface, do you pull the boards or try to navigate between them?


We didn't see one ray this year - I was there last year as well and did see tons of them...most of them on the last leg to Tybee. However, we were moving a little fast this year on the way to Tybee to notice much! We had a rudder pop up about 8 or 9 times on the last leg but I'm not sure if it was jelly balls or rays.


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Re: Tybee - Day 6 Fernandina to Tybee Island [Re: Jake] #75404
05/23/06 11:03 AM
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What have you learned in boat set up and increasing general boat speed?
Thanks
Nice run up the coast

Re: Tybee - Day 6 Fernandina to Tybee Island [Re: Barry] #75405
05/23/06 01:43 PM
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Not a whole lot really with regard to boat setup...I don't think we were quite optimized and distance racing doesn't lend itself to experimenting with mast rake and diamond wire tension very well since you are on such long legs. I do know that we missed the setup on several days - we had the mast raked much too far back on the first day and struggled in the light air. Round Cape Canaveral, we stood the rig up a notch expecting light air - we were greeted with 15 to 18knots immediately. Our spreaders were set at 1.75" back from the luff groove and we ran between 500 and 600 lbs of diamond wire tension. Mast rake, when measured by taking a trap line to the forestay bridle attachment on the hull and then back to the raised rudder, landed about half-way back on the rudder - typical heavy air and spinnaker setup. I really want to get out on the buoy course and experiment some with the diamond wires and spreaders sometime.

We were pretty fast right out of the box running deep with the spinnaker - that was the only day we actually got to see Team Tybee finish on the horizon ahead. With the kite up (and in some 2 - 3' rolling swell), I kept the traveler centered but would ease it 12" when a hull popped up quickly. As usual, I would steer down when the hull got light but sometimes coming off a wave, it happened so quickly that I didn't want to YANK the tiller to depower the boat. I felt it was smoother and maintained better speed to scallop the helm and ease the traveler at the same time. Later, we received some advice (from some really great sailors watching us chase them down) that we should have left the traveler eased in more of an average position but we didn't get another opportunity to really test that.

Frank and I learned a lot about making the boat fast upwind/tight reaching with a lot of breeze. I would first travel out and if about 18" of traveling out wasn't enough, Frank would start to ease the sheet. At times, compared to what we do with the F18, I don't think we were sheeting quite hard enough (I know Frank was getting tired of hearing me say it! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />) and I would find myself bringing the traveler back in to power up the rig while Frank was still easing - the new 10:1 mainsheet setup might be a good upgrade for the boat in the future. This timing is just part of learning to sail with each other and we got much better with it as the week went on. At other times, with the significant waves of Cape Canaveral (upwind in heavy air), I found the boat faster if I feathered/scalloped the helm over and down waves and worked the sails less. We ran down Castrol2 from nearly a mile back this way ... but, then with a slight change in sea state and wind pressure, suddenly that didn't work anymore and they walked away from us in just about the same capacity.

We tried a lot of different techniques throughout the week and tried to stick with the ones that worked. Occasionally we were at a loss as to why some boats were faster than us, other times we were proud of the speed we had. Frank had a really great attitude about experiementing with this and that and offering ideas and suggestions to try. The other thing that was great help, were the other competitors. Jamie Livingston, especially, offered tons of very useful advice nearly every day. Team Tybee was helpful as well. It still surprises me how much sharing goes on even at this level of the sport.


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Re: Tybee - Day 6 Fernandina to Tybee Island [Re: Jake] #75406
05/23/06 01:55 PM
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One thing that we realized is that halfway through the week, our new rigging had stretched out so much, that we were able to pull the shrouds down two holes on each side.

Some of the things that you "set-it-and-forget-it" need to be readdressed on a daily basis for these kinds of races.


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