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Roake 21 – Randy Smythes Worrel winner from 88? #76027
05/24/06 02:46 PM
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Ref: http://www.multihulls.org/forsale.html
Scroll down and search for "Roake 21"..

According to the text it is Randy Smyths winning boat from the 88' Worrel. Looking at the hull design, it looks like it has the modern shape with less windage and bouyancy far down. Very cool wings!

Looks like a cool boat!


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Roake 21 – Randy Smythes Worrel 1000 winner from 1988.

Some assembly required, but all parts are there and when you have it ready you have what is claimed to be the quickest beach cat around. The designer (Richard Roake) says 42 knots, Randy Smythe guesses over 30 knots (was it 34 Randy at the side of a powerboat?). A couple of production boats was built by Reg White as the Hurricane 650.


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PS: I am not selling, just tought it was a fun boat.

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Re: Roake 21 – Randy Smythes Worrel winner from 88? [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #76028
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What were the rules back then?

Did the Worrell allow you to show up with anything or did it have limits?

I seem to remember it was started on H16's? Is that right? Anyone know the history of the boats that were involved?

Re: Roake 21 – Randy Smythes Worrel winner from 88 [Re: bvining] #76029
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At one point it became "anything goes" with only a few minor limitations. Origionally it was on the H16.


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It was supposed to be unlimited PRODUCTION catamarans at a 21' maximum.

I believe the G-Force 21 came in 2nd that year.


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Re: Roake 21 – Randy Smythes Worrel winner from 88? [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #76031
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They were called the Hurricane 6.5. I'm not sure how many people bought them. I remember hearing about people with "more money than sense" buying them. I haven't got around to working out how to upload photos to the forum yet, but here are a few photos from the brochure.
http://www.catsailor.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=81

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Re: Roake 21 – Randy Smythes Worrel winner from 88 [Re: Dermot] #76032
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Wow, what a monstrosity! If you trapped out like that in the waters I sail in, You'd be hit so hard by a wave that the entire boat would spin-out laterally.

Thanks for posting the cool pictures!

GARY


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Re: Roake 21 – Randy Smythes Worrel winner from 88 [Re: hobiegary] #76033
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Gary, look at the wing-sets where the wings extend behind the transom of the boat. Looks workable, and getting your weight so far aft must be good going downwind in a blow.

The mast on that boat must be really long!

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What were the rules back then?

Did the Worrell allow you to show up with anything or did it have limits?

I seem to remember it was started on H16's? Is that right? Anyone know the history of the boats that were involved?


Some history on the rule changes since 1976 (wow!):
http://www.worrell1000.com/ri_lookingback.html


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Re: Roake 21 – Randy Smythes Worrel winner from 88 [Re: tshan] #76035
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The Hurricane 6.5 was a total loony machine.....

Last time I was at white Formula there was one sitting on it's trailer.

I've sailed around with them once ona very light wind East Coast Peirs Race and they ran a 50+ sqm code zero/reacher in lightwinds and sailed upwind quite well with it.

A very scary bit of Kit and Rob White called it a bit of a monster, so that gives you some idea ! He actually called it dangerous after he got hurt in one pitchpole and ended up nearly getting sliced up by all the rigging on the Spi pole.



a very mad machine


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Re: Roake 21 – Randy Smythes Worrel winner from 88? [Re: bvining] #76036
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I found an article on the G-cat sailed by Rod that year -

Rod said privately that the wave slap on the beams were very bad in seas at times .

The innovation and open race aspect was great fun .

here is the article

http://www.g-catmultihulls.com/misc/maytheforcebewithyou.html

Re: Roake 21 – Randy Smythes Worrel winner from 88? [Re: Carl] #76037
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There is still a G-Force 21 Worrell (the wide boat, they also made a narrow 8'6" version) at the Sarasota Sailing Squadron.

I heard the owner put a taller mast on it. I saw it with a new square-top main at the Labor Day Regatta some years back, patiently waiting at the finish line for everything else in its class.


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Re: Roake 21 – Randy Smythes Worrel winner from 88 [Re: Sycho15] #76038
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It's a very quick "straight line" boat. The deep V hulls don't allow it to tack very well however. Mosley had a G-cat 21 for a short while.


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Yes, but he had the narrow version. The Worrel version I saw on the race course had no trouble snapping through a tack. Also, I've seen Hans Geisler and Ralf Cole pull off surprisingly quick tacks on the G-Cat 6.1M, which is only 1' shorter.


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Re: Roake 21 – Randy Smythes Worrel winner from 88 [Re: Sycho15] #76040
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The literature says this boat has an 8' beam. Is this correct? I would have expected a 10-12' beam for something like this. That would allow for a less dramatic trapeze setup, maybe more average style wings....


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Re: Roake 21 – Randy Smythes Worrel winner from 88 [Re: Sycho15] #76041
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The worrell version of G-cat was the 21 with a little removed from the bows and transoms. ala 6.1.

I believe Hans made two of them.


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