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Posts: 1,382 Essex, UK | In the UK Brian Phipps runs the (very successful) Windsport Cat Clinic. Windsport Website There are others around the country and several clubs have RYA Multihull Coaches among their members.
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[Re: Berny]
#77086 06/07/06 07:35 AM 06/07/06 07:35 AM |
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Posts: 1,669 Melbourne, Australia | Hi Berny, Agree with most of what you say..... Cat sailors in Oz are generally not club sailors but more of a regatta roaming group, with few if any roots in sailing clubs per se.
There is a core group of dedicated Club Sailors and core group of roming Regatta sailors, with a few that commit to both. There are no cat specific training programs such as they have in the mono ranks here. Something I have been considering in the future (post Worlds) at our club. | | | Re: Where do new cat sailors come from?
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#77088 06/07/06 02:58 PM 06/07/06 02:58 PM |
Joined: May 2006 Posts: 182 Coopersburg, PA Vinny_M
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Posts: 182 Coopersburg, PA | I can agree with you that there are few younger people who are really into cat sailing let alone sailing in general. Well, at least in my neck of the woods there are very few kids my age who sail beach cats. I wasnt around in the 70's to know if cat sailing was big then, but I know that now, it really has the potential to become a big thing. All that is needed is for someone to start promoting it through the media more, being that today's world runs on the media.
~vinny~
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#77089 06/07/06 03:16 PM 06/07/06 03:16 PM |
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Posts: 1,152 tampa, fl | I believe that sailing in general is still going strong. At the club I sail at in Tampa, there was a "school's out" regatta a couple weekends ago. There were a 100+ opti's on the water plus dozens of 420's and Lasers. That is a lot of kids getting into sailing. The question is how do we get these kids onto cats.
If your havin girl problems i feel bad for you son I got 99 problems but my beautiful wife ain't one | | | Re: Where do new cat sailors come from?
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#77090 06/07/06 03:34 PM 06/07/06 03:34 PM | Anonymous
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Take them out on a windy day. They will either love it or be scared off, but they will see the speed. Then, when they want their own boat offer to teach them for free. | | | Re: Where do new cat sailors come from?
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Posts: 99 Virginia Beach | I don't think the manufacturers are doing much to promote cat sailing either. I live in a large metropolitan area with lots of water. You couldn't walk down the beach in the '70s without tripping over a H14 or H16. Now we don't even have a Hobie dealer. I sail a H16 and a P18, both 1982, but I wouldn't know where to go to buy a new one. Lots of boats around here are kluged together from old parts. After a Nor'easter we comb the beaches looking for stuff to recycle. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
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#77093 06/07/06 11:35 PM 06/07/06 11:35 PM |
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Posts: 1,383 Kingston SE South Australia | I sail a stingray at Kingston SE South Australia in a cat and windsurfer club with my four kids. They showed an interest in sailing so I bought them a 420 which gives them ownership and commitment but after the adrenalin of a screaming reach on the cat and rescue boat proving that breakages are manageable its a battle to get the 420 in the water. The downside is the kids need your attention so I start at 8am race day and by the time the race starts Im buggered with waterlogged hulls, but at least they all get their turn.I have no shortage of crew my problem is I cant use them in scary weather so I am looking at self tacking jib setups to solo in the weather that has them looking longingly at the clubroom. My best memory of 2005-2006 race season is my eight year old daughter laying flat on her back on the tramp with her feet planted on the lee hull pulling the jib on with all her might, it should be a bit tighter but I leave it there. Its winter here and they keep asking when does sailing start. So I guess my answer to your problem is finding the time to devote the attention and praise the kids need.
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#77094 06/08/06 01:11 AM 06/08/06 01:11 AM | Anonymous
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Posts: 334 Thunder Bay ON CAN | This from the Austrailian Hobie website QLD Hobie assoc is staging a youth H16 training day Sat Jun24 and a one day Youth H16 regatta Sat Aug 12, both at Mooloolaba. Each team will be allocated an experienced Hobie sailor as coach/mentor. The training day will involve land-based tuning and coaching as well as time on the water with the coach. The Saturday regatta, sponsored by Hogsbreath Cafe will involve short sprint races for H16 and H16 spi divisions Cost is $nil for the training day and $20.00 for the regatta. All participants must be financial members of the Queensland Hobie Cat Association. Notice Of Race for Regatta will be available soon. Thanks to the many QLD Hobie assoc members who have volunteered their services to assist our new youth members. Contact h16youth@sunstatehobie.com.au to register for more information | | | Re: Where do new cat sailors come from?
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Joined: May 2006 Posts: 182 Coopersburg, PA Vinny_M
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Posts: 182 Coopersburg, PA | I can agree with the Wendy, when I take my friends from school sailing with me, they have absolutely no prior knowledge of sailing in general, let alone cat sailing. After we finish with our trip though, they have clearly had a great time and later beg to come again. I think that more awareness would definetly get more youth my age into cat sailing. Maybe a presentation or something of the sort at a local HS or college as Mark noted would get more people interested.
Personally, I feel that unless you offer something in return to someone who is uninterested in a sport or activity, they will have no interest in the activity whatsoever. Perhaps a free ride on a beachcat one day or a free "learn to sail" lesson or something of that sort will "up the ante" a bit for youth to want to come out and learn to sail.
~vinny~
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