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Daytona Gaulden Reed race #78344
06/25/06 07:09 PM
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Inquiring minds want to know.

How did it go?
How was the weather?
How many f16s showed up?

Pete, how was your crew?
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Re: Daytona Gaulden Reed race [Re: Robi] #78345
06/25/06 11:31 PM
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Partly cloudy scattered rain showers, no thunder and lightning. Wind 10-15+ on Saturday, quite a bit lighter on Sunday.

Crew was great! Always smiling, never complains. Can't get enough time on the water!

Only 4 F16s.

What a party. The most fun I've had in a long time. Most of us went to the "Ocean Deck" Saturday Night and had a good time. Hot dogs and lots of suds on Sunday after the race.

Surf was a little rough, with not much wind, so I wimped out on Sunday. For me, I made the right decision. Half the fleet zipped right off the beach, some had more trouble.

Mary got a surfing lesson from Mavis on Sunday morning, and crewed for Chuck during the race. I hung out and took my time rigging down.

Saturday the surf was up as well but the winds were higher, say 10-15 sustained. The learning process continues. Didn't flip, didn't break anything. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Great bunch of folks at Daytona! Very friendly party oriented crowd.

As you know, this is my first experience with spinnaker. Well, Saturday afternoon the waves started building until we had a few decent sized waves. So, we're zipping along under spinnaker, surfing a good sized wave and I noticed, it's a long way down! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> And the speed isn't bad either! No big deal for you guys that sail in the ocean, but I rarely see anything over a 1'. It was the first time I was able to surf under spinnaker, to me, it was exciting.

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Re: Daytona Gaulden Reed race [Re: fin.] #78346
06/26/06 04:04 PM
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And here are the results :

http://www.fleet80.com/Sizzler2006.shtml

Again a win for the Mc's

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Re: Daytona Gaulden Reed race [Re: Wouter] #78347
06/26/06 04:52 PM
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Posted under "First Pics" ... now duplicating here where it follows the thread better.


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If you can't point with the sloops then something is wrong. To me it sounds like you are suffocating the rig.


Yes, I felt like I was not fully powered.

In fact I likely "overtrimmed" as the wind was up and the seas were high and choppy. My goal was to not capsize so I made for a flat sail (succesfull upwind -- not so under spi' -- note previous post).

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Is your traveller of centre by at least 4 to 6 inches, if not then try that
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Traveller centered to weather.

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Mast rotation in these conditions should be somewhere halveway between rear centreboard case and rudder stock. It is actually one of the first things to reduce (less rotation) if the boat is flightly. Second is downhaul.


Flat ... pointing towards rudder stock.

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Add a few leech tell tales to your mainsail. I did just the day before yesterday and found that I (taveller) sheeted my mainsail in to close and didn't fly the lower leech tell tale. I was sailing with the traveller about 4 inches off centre. The F16 superwing rig really doesn't like it when the traveller is centred on the 1-up (uni-rigged) sailing trips.

The leech tell tales should be placed : halveway up from leech, halveway between top and mid point of leech, in the middle of the upper panel.

Good luck next time !

Wouter


Thanks, lots to learn (and re-learn). The race(s) were fun and except for the chase boat having mechanical failure on Saturday (90 minute race delay) the races were ... well, exciting.

Sunday races were in lighter winds (occassionally trap'ing), with modest seas (2-3 ground swells). Race 1 I was over early as I got caught between the committee boat and one of the caps and had to come up (almost to irons). Additionally I had a problem with the head of my spi' twisting (several turns) ... I sailed the race that way passing one of the F16 sloops near the finish only to jibe and catch my life vest buckle on the outhaul---blown jibe and actually a 360 before I could get myself "un cleated" and back on course.

Race 2 I was over early again -- down the line and couldn't "dive down" under the F18's so I sheeted sailed over and past them around the leeward mark, turning back on port start. Chuck (F16 709) was over early too, so we both raced each other (he went back and out on Starboard). We met at A mark, Chuck a little ahead. Down wind on the spi' run I caught and passed Chuck. But met again at A mark (clearly Chuck was tuned better for upwind legs). Rounding A mark I was fully expecting to chase Chuck down ... however, my spi' had many twists and I couldn't hoist it all the way up.

I decided not to push it and head for the beach for a quick repair.

It turns out that my spi block at the top was broken and not allowing the pulley to turn--causing the rope to jam in the block. I think this is why I had twists in my spi -- the rope wasn't allowed to twist so the spi' did.

I couldn't get repaired in time to make the start of Race 3 so I (unfortunately) watched from shore. I really like the way Fleet 80 set the course. The committee boat some 300 yds offshore with the "gated" C mark just ahead. A mark in usually location. Various courses of AC(g).

From the shore the "cats" were very visible at the start and finish and each time they came down for C. I'm sure the casual spectator didn't have any idea of what was happening other than it was colorful when the spi's were flying and a "controlled chaos" as the boats seemed to interweave thru one another.

Oh, two Capricorns (F18) were present. One hadn't seen the water before Saturday as the skipper and crew were rigging and drilling on the mast Friday afternoon. Very fast and beautiful boats.


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Re: Daytona Gaulden Reed race [Re: tback] #78348
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One of the Caps was Robbie Daniel, whom I hadn't talked to in perhaps 10 years! Got reacquainted Sunday afternoon over suds 'n dogs.

Lots of questions from tourists while rigging down. The public still likes looking at the boats.

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Re: Daytona Gaulden Reed race [Re: tback] #78349
06/26/06 07:58 PM
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next time when solo sailing with only the main, let the traveller out by 4 to 6 inches. The sail will be just as flat (unless you chance your other settings as well) but the rig will breath better and most likely make you faster while feeling less powered up. That can actually happen on these boats. Go faster while you feel less powered up then before.

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Re: Daytona Gaulden Reed race [Re: Robi] #78350
06/26/06 08:42 PM
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Eveything was sooooo awsome! Pete did a great job on sailing as did Chuck. It was so wonderful to see everyone again and I'm totally looking forward to seeing everyone again the next time. One day at a time, I'm learning more and more. Of course the captains deserve alot of credit for that. Thanks Robi, Pete, and Chuck. Being out on the water is such a blast. Terry- still looking forward to sailing with you. Maybe after I've sailed more and get use to the catamaran. You flip over alot so just want to learn a bit more on what to do. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> It was another wonderful time.

Re: Daytona Gaulden Reed race [Re: MaryG] #78351
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You flip over alot
If you do not flip over you are not sailing on the edge! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
<img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Pointy side up. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Re: Daytona Gaulden Reed race [Re: Robi] #78352
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You flip over alot
If you do not flip over you are not sailing on the edge! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
<img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Pointy side up. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Yes you are right! Sometime I'll get to that point. Soon enough!!! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Re: Daytona Gaulden Reed race [Re: MaryG] #78353
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You flip over alot
If you do not flip over you are not sailing on the edge! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
<img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Pointy side up. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Yes you are right! Sometime I'll get to that point. Soon enough!!! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
You ma'am are a quick learner! I am always right! right on! ahhahahha
<img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

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You flip over alot
If you do not flip over you are not sailing on the edge! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
<img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Pointy side up. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Yes you are right! Sometime I'll get to that point. Soon enough!!! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
You ma'am are a quick learner! I am always right! right on! ahhahahha
<img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
Do you have a hard time walking through the doorway sometimes? Beings that your ego is way super big. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Re: Daytona Gaulden Reed race [Re: MaryG] #78355
06/30/06 10:21 PM
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You flip over alot
If you do not flip over you are not sailing on the edge! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
<img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Pointy side up. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Yes you are right! Sometime I'll get to that point. Soon enough!!! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
You ma'am are a quick learner! I am always right! right on! ahhahahha
<img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
Do you have a hard time walking through the doorway sometimes? Beings that your ego is way super big. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
My ego, is not the only thing that is big. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Re: Daytona Gaulden Reed race [Re: Robi] #78356
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Ya'll need to get out more.

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Ya'll need to get out more.

I agree with Pete. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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