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Videos: The need for speed! #80632
07/20/06 01:55 AM
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alutz Offline OP
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Saw the link on SA...

A great comparison between orange II, open 60 multi/monos, kitesurfers and windsurfers

[Linked Image]

Results:
http://www.grandprixpetitnavire.com/defi/resultats.php

fastest time
1 : GITANA 11
2 : GITANA 10
3 : GEANT

first maxi : ORANGE 2
first multicoques 60 pieds : GITANA 11
first multicoque 50 pieds : CREPES WHAOU
first windsurf : BRUNO ANDRE ex aequo avec GERALD PELLEAU
first kitesurf : PAOLO RISTA
first engin de vitesse : NAVI OUEST


MULTICOQUE MAXI
ORANGE 2 11' 19" 26 nds 50

MULTICOQUES 60 PIEDS
GITANA 11 09' 12" 32 nds 60

WINDSURF
Bruno ANDRE 11' 28" 26 nds 16

KITESURF
Paolo RISTA 13' 41" 21 nds 92


Andi, Switzerland
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Re: Videos: The need for speed! [Re: alutz] #80633
07/20/06 04:58 AM
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In those conditions the Open 60 Tris smoke everything!

Best average speed over the 5 nm 32.60 knots.
compared to the windsurfer with 26.16 kn and orange II with 26.5 kn.


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Re: Videos: The need for speed! [Re: alutz] #80634
07/20/06 08:21 AM
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Those average speeds are amazing, looks like it was no more than 15-18knots windspeed, at most.
Now if they sailed the same contest in 25knots plus, this is what they`d be up against :
http://www.bestmedia.com/videos/laird_hamilton.htm

Still, those big tris are not slow !!

Cheers
Steve

Re: Videos: The need for speed! [Re: alutz] #80635
07/20/06 09:11 AM
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Well, that link has ruined any chance for productivity at work today!

Re: Videos: The need for speed! [Re: Keith] #80636
07/20/06 12:41 PM
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See that gitana 11 being lifted out of the water on its bruce foils ?

Wouter


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Re: Videos: The need for speed! [Re: Wouter] #80637
07/21/06 08:32 AM
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Yes, that was very cool. I wonder what that must feel like - smoking along on one hull out of three and it starts to lift you out of the water!

Re: Videos: The need for speed! [Re: Keith] #80638
07/21/06 10:15 AM
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Was that a Hobie 18 at the end going kitesailing?

Re: Videos: The need for speed! [Re: sbflyer] #80639
07/21/06 10:45 AM
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Was that a Hobie 18 at the end going kitesailing?


Yeah!

Re: Videos: The need for speed! [Re: alutz] #80640
07/21/06 07:18 PM
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Orange 2 needs wave action to strut its stuff against the competition.

Re: Videos: The need for speed! [Re: sbflyer] #80641
07/23/06 04:48 PM
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Where in the videos was the Hobie 18 with a kite?

Fortunately, there were no Americans involved in this speed sailing event, no American cats flying 2 hulls, or American trihulls flying 3 hulls - such as coming out of the water on Bruce foils as noted by Wouter... (thanks Wout).

Naw- Americans would rather run buzzing jetskis and sail obsolete sailboats!

Signed, the owner and driver of the only hydrofoil-equipped flying cats- Hobie 18, Hobie 16 and A-cat- in the Americas, in fact- the entire Western Hemisphere!
Dave Carlson


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Re: Videos: The need for speed! [Re: dacarls] #80642
07/23/06 05:55 PM
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don't have timings to hand, but at some point during there are a few seconds of an 18 with a kite and then again near the end.


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Re: Videos: The need for speed! [Re: scooby_simon] #80643
07/24/06 08:11 AM
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Towards the end, there's a shot of a Hobie-18 without a rig. At first I thought I'd see an outboard on it, but then you see the control lines for the kite. I don't think you get to see the kite though.


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