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Rivets & Rivet Guns #82355
08/11/06 09:48 AM
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royaluser Offline OP
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Greetings,

I need to replace some rivets on my catamaran. What heavy duty hand riveters do you recommend? I am considering the Astro Pneumatic model 1426 (long handles, 21" in length and several nose pieces including 3/16" and 1/4"), the POP model PRG A475 and the ValueRivet model VHR-2. These riveters are similar in design. Are the longer handle hand rivet tools easier to use then the shorter handle ones such as the Marson HP-2 or Stanley MR100CG?

What blind rivet types do you prefer? Rivet types such as closed-end and structural monobolt retain the mandrel for a water resistant seal. Stainless steel mandrel and body offer higher shear and tensile strengths and corrosion resistance.

Thank you in advance for your advise.

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Re: Rivets & Rivet Guns [Re: royaluser] #82356
08/11/06 10:17 AM
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The Marsom HP-2 does a good job on SS 3/8 rivets, but it takes two hands.

A word of caution on the Marsom, the nut that holds the spring in the top of the gun can come loose and it can shoot out. I had this part whiz by my ear like a bullet while riveting a SS rivet, keep your head clear and wear eye protection.

I replaced the Marsom with a Stanley from Home Depot, I dont have the model #, but it was $19 and yellow with a swivel head. It doesnt grab the rivet when you go to take the second squeeze and the middle of the rivet drops into your boat. Not recommended.

Bill

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Re: Rivets & Rivet Guns "(who's your big daddy) [Re: bvining] #82357
08/11/06 11:45 AM
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I am a huge fan of the

Marson 39010 - BIG DADDY Riveter

It will cost you ~110 bucks but worth every penny. IF you every have to build a mast with 30-40+ rivits in it your knuckles will thank you.
Mine is at least 12 years old and is still fine.

Cheers
Eric

Re: Rivets & Rivet Guns "(who's your big daddy) [Re: Eric Anderson] #82358
08/11/06 11:55 AM
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I found a knock-off of the big daddy at a tool shop here in Jacksonville for $60 - Tool Aide... well-made and works great, but the tips (comes with five) don't get into super narrow openings like the Stanley one-hand models do. I bought the Stanley to do the tough-to-reach jobs, but my big, blue Tool Aide has been a dream to use on everything else. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Rivets & Rivet Guns [Re: bvining] #82359
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I replaced the Marsom with a Stanley from Home Depot, I dont have the model #, but it was $19 and yellow with a swivel head. It doesnt grab the rivet when you go to take the second squeeze and the middle of the rivet drops into your boat. Not recommended.


Bill, I had one of those too and it would do the same thing ... not grab on the second pull. However, they now have a new model in Home Depot with an orange handle - it works very well and is much easier than the previous model to pull the stainless rivets. I wouldn't go with the swivel head though.


Jake Kohl
Re: Rivets & Rivet Guns [Re: royaluser] #82360
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If you have accesss to an air compressor this is the way to go.

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=93458

Re: Rivets & Rivet Guns [Re: royaluser] #82361
08/11/06 04:50 PM
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I borrowed a rivet puller that had two handles that each worked in compound leverage action that looked something like the one shown here. It pulled 1/4" very easily and that is the only time I have ever even thought about using the word "easily" when speaking of 1/4" S.S. rivets. It pulled 3/16" rivets like a knife through butter.

GARY


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Re: Rivets & Rivet Guns "(who's your big daddy) [Re: John Williams] #82362
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Seems I have a knock-off to the knock-off...Big Daddy style...$12.00 at Harbor Freight...lifetime warranty. I picked one up onde day, but must have forgot I had it in the garage...months later bought a second one, pulled a total of 5 1/4" SS's with it before the internal jaws came apart. Took it back to replace under the LT warranty...worked for the rest of the job and is still going strong ~100 pulls later. Then I found the first one I bought...so I have backup. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

Mike.
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I found a knock-off of the big daddy at a tool shop here in Jacksonville for $60 - Tool Aide... well-made and works great, but the tips (comes with five) don't get into super narrow openings like the Stanley one-hand models do. I bought the Stanley to do the tough-to-reach jobs, but my big, blue Tool Aide has been a dream to use on everything else. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


Mike Dobbs
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Re: Rivets & Rivet Guns "(who's your big daddy) [Re: John Williams] #82363
08/11/06 10:13 PM
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for stuff like the traveler track etc where you need a narrow nose on the riveter, you can uase a little narrow sleeve slipped over the rivet stem before you put the riveter jaws over it, or failing the little sleeve, just slip a bunch of the old drilled out rivet heads (like little washers) to space up the rivet head to where the jaws can draw on the stem. Done.

Re: Rivets & Rivet Guns "(who's your big daddy) [Re: davidtilley] #82364
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And for those riveters that don't grab proper, you can buy new collets for most better quality pliers at the hardware.


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