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| Is $1000 for M10 a good deal? #8510 07/05/02 01:56 PM 07/05/02 01:56 PM | Anonymous OP
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Unregistered | This M10 I'm looking at is in good shape and comes with trailer and decent sails. What is a good price? The guy wants $1000 and I'm thinking this is a real sweet deal.
I realize there are a million factors going on here but I'm just wondering if this is in the ballpark of a good deal.
Any advice?
Marty
Last edited by catapult; 07/05/02 05:07 PM.
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#8512 07/07/02 07:58 PM 07/07/02 07:58 PM | Anonymous OP
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Unregistered | Never mind. I had meant M20, but the boat in question was a different M20 from a different era. I hadn't noticed I'd typo'd M10 until your reply. No wonder I got nothing back. Doh!
Marty
| | | Re: Is $1000 for M10 a good deal? (nevermind) #8513 07/07/02 09:10 PM 07/07/02 09:10 PM |
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | a Marstrom 20 for $1000? Can you elaborate on the name - I think this is still not right? An M20 is an all carbon fiber boat and there's not many in existance.
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#8514 07/07/02 09:41 PM 07/07/02 09:41 PM | Anonymous OP
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Unregistered | When I talked to the guy on the phone I was thinking Marstrom also. No such luck. He talked about how he saved up for this 'M20', paid $14k (didn't say new or used and I didn't ask at the time) then his sons weren't into it and he was disapointed and just wanted to get rid of it. He said it was not a monohull and 'like a catamaran, but for racing'. Whatever that was supposed to mean, I got it in my head that he might have a Marstrom and just not know what he had or how to describe it.
At this point I'm thinking this is possiibly a real sweet deal. He could not remember the manufacturer, which seemed real strange indeed, but still it seemed to deserve a looking at so I dropped by after work (after posting my initial post here in a rush just before I left early from work).
What I find when I get there is a double-breasted glass monohull thing that looks like the missing link between a cat and a monohull. The beam is only about 6.5' while the length is 20'. it is dual ruddered and has dual daggerboards like a cat and carries quite a bit of sail from the look of it. The owner said it was designed for a crew of six to hike out on and with that skinny beam and no keel I believe it. The mast was British, the cleats Australian. I couldn't find any other identifier on it. A lot of stainless steel. A standard marconi rig with a spinnaker tube in the foredeck. No keel whatsoever, in fact, the centerline is raised like its trying to go through mitosis and become a cat.
I know I don't want it as it looks like it requires too much crew for me to enjoy often enough.
Any clues as to what this boat is?
I told him I'd try to find an ID for the boat and perhaps someone who is interested. It needs new rope sheets etc but the stainless stuff all looked great. The wood trim needs some TLC and the glass could use some surface beautification.
Marty
| | | Re: Is $1000 for M10 a good deal? (nevermind) #8515 07/07/02 10:19 PM 07/07/02 10:19 PM |
Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 96 Racine, Wisconsin Leo
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Posts: 96 Racine, Wisconsin | I'll bet it's probably a Melges designed scow. Tell the owner to post in the SE Wisconsin area as there are a lot of scow sailors around here. Lake Geneva and Pewaukee Lake in particular come to mind.
Paul Scott Bartelt
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#8516 07/07/02 10:22 PM 07/07/02 10:22 PM | Anonymous OP
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Unregistered | Thanks Paul, will do. If you come across anyone who might be interested yourself, drop me a line. AMelges designed 'scow', eh? Thanks for the clue, I needed it.
Marty | | | Re: Is $1000 for M10 a good deal? #8517 07/07/02 10:38 PM 07/07/02 10:38 PM |
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Posts: 364 | Melges Performance Sailboats builds the C Scow which you have described. It sounds stock with the exception of the spinnaker rig. sail fast
Andrew Tatton
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#8518 07/07/02 11:03 PM 07/07/02 11:03 PM | Anonymous OP
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Unregistered | That looks a lot like it, Andrew. But I just remembered that he had a state reg. sticker from '83 on it so its a fairly old scow. The foredeck did not have that splash triangle I see on the Melges C. I suppose it may not be a Melges. I dropped them a line describing it and how old it must be (at least) and asked if it might be one of theirs.
Oh yeah, the rudders are not off the transom, but integral to the hull (no pop up!)
Thanks for the info.
Marty
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#8521 07/08/02 08:53 PM 07/08/02 08:53 PM | Anonymous OP
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Unregistered | Thanks for the detailed info! I am considering getting it. It is not really what I'm looking for, but it could be fun and could be traded away or sold later I suppose.
It does need some TLC.
Does anyone know of an internet discussion list for scows?
Thanks again.
Marty
Last edited by catapult; 07/08/02 08:55 PM.
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