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seal and dolphin tag team knock Tornado out!!! #86655
10/15/06 03:39 PM
10/15/06 03:39 PM
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Annapolis, MD
Mark Schneider Offline OP
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From San Diego YC report

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Meanwhile, dealing with kelp, light wind and waves isn't the only challenge the competitors face. Drew Wierda of Chicago reported on a rival's encounter with local sea life: "When it comes to war stories, none of us can match Mark Herendreen and Pat Giles, another U.S. entry. Their boat was holed when it was rammed by a seal, and later in the day a dolphin jumped out of the water and broke their spinnaker pole."



Sailing just got tougher!!! New factor to consdier in the skill, talent, practice debate....


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Re: seal and dolphin tag tean knock Tornado out!!! [Re: Mark Schneider] #86656
10/15/06 04:29 PM
10/15/06 04:29 PM
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John Williams Offline
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Wow - if I were prone to personification, I would say that Mark forgot to pour a libation to appease King Neptune. Sound silly? I have done it for every event, and never once have I been attacked by the Minions of the Deep. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />


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Re: seal and dolphin tag tean knock Tornado out!!! [Re: John Williams] #86657
10/15/06 05:08 PM
10/15/06 05:08 PM
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Oh snap thats harsh. I hope Mark's boat is ok.

Re: seal and dolphin tag tean knock Tornado out!!! [Re: MauganN20] #86658
10/15/06 09:22 PM
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I think something is trying to tell them their sailing season is over for this year! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

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Re: seal and dolphin tag tean knock Tornado out!!! [Re: MauganN20] #86659
10/16/06 08:49 AM
10/16/06 08:49 AM
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Oh snap thats harsh. I hope Mark's boat is ok.


Tell me you didn't just say snap.

Re: seal and dolphin tag tean knock Tornado out!!! [Re: BrianK] #86660
10/16/06 08:59 AM
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I did.

What are you going to do about it Noodle-lover? :P

Re: seal and dolphin tag tean knock Tornado out!!! [Re: John Williams] #86661
10/16/06 02:03 PM
10/16/06 02:03 PM
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Colorado
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Wow - if I were prone to personification, I would say that Mark forgot to pour a libation to appease King Neptune. Sound silly? I have done it for every event, and never once have I been attacked by the Minions of the Deep.


Call me superstitious, but this really seems to work. I've never thought to try it for costal sailing, but on a south-to-north crossing of the Atlantic we were stuck in a tenacious calm hovering around the equator. Once we crossed the line and held our Shellback ceremony (pouring scotch through the scuppers, donning earrings, etc.), the wind filled in and we had near perfect conditions with a steady 20- to 25-knots of wind on the beam for the next 19 or 20 days. We would go for one or two days at a time without having to adjust the self stearing - amazing sailing.


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Re: seal and dolphin tag team knock Tornado out!!! [Re: Mark Schneider] #86662
10/18/06 05:21 PM
10/18/06 05:21 PM
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Infact, Mark told me it was a seal (400 pounder?) that leapt out and hit the alloy pole, bending it. THey did n;t see what exactly caused the two, parallel ~1.5ft cuts through the outer fiberglass skin down near the waterline on the port hull...but were surrounded by dolphins when they heard/felt a bang. To me it looked like the lines were about the right distance apart to be the canines of a seal....can;t see how a dolphin could possibly open it's long snout sufficiently to bite the hull in that area.

They filled the punctures and were about the fit out a loaned, bare carbon pole and I suggested they just bend the alloy one back to near straight...it wasn't kinked and would be quite servicable.

They later discovered their carbon snuffer (Guck) had a nasty hole about the size of a business card worn in the underside of the upper lip (from the the halyard line) and several new tears in the sail. They patched the sail and we jury rigged a section of water bottle plastic to cover the hole and taped it all down. Seemed to hold up pretty well.



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From San Diego YC report

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Meanwhile, dealing with kelp, light wind and waves isn't the only challenge the competitors face. Drew Wierda of Chicago reported on a rival's encounter with local sea life: "When it comes to war stories, none of us can match Mark Herendreen and Pat Giles, another U.S. entry. Their boat was holed when it was rammed by a seal, and later in the day a dolphin jumped out of the water and broke their spinnaker pole."



Sailing just got tougher!!! New factor to consdier in the skill, talent, practice debate....


Mike Dobbs
Tornado CAN 99 "Full Tilt"
Re: seal and dolphin tag team knock Tornado out!!! [Re: Tornado] #86663
10/20/06 11:41 PM
10/20/06 11:41 PM
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Melbourne, Australia
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Lets hope the stingrays in that area don't get any ideas....

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/s...-home-headlines



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