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#91678 12/10/06 11:49 AM 12/10/06 11:49 AM |
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 393 Syracuse,N.Y pbisesi
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Posts: 393 Syracuse,N.Y | How could Mike possibly be in first place on such a Low Tech Out dated design Pitch pole machine ??
Wait,I remember..... The Nut on the Tiller. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Not bad for a Northeast Pond Sailor
Great job Mike, Hope it's still blowin.
Maybe he will open some eyes as to what a well sailed H16 can do.
Pat Bisesi
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#91679 12/10/06 11:54 AM 12/10/06 11:54 AM |
Joined: May 2002 Posts: 3,114 BANNED MauganN20
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Posts: 3,114 BANNED | Maybe he will open some eyes as to what a well sailed H16 can do. I don't know what you're trying to do here, but I don't think anyone has ever disagreed with the fact that the H16 is a good boat in the right conditions. Throwin the bait out there eh? | | | Re: Steeple Chase
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#91680 12/10/06 12:14 PM 12/10/06 12:14 PM |
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Posts: 3,348 | How could Mike possibly be in first place on such a Low Tech Out dated design Pitch pole machine ??
Wait,I remember..... The Nut on the Tiller. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Not bad for a Northeast Pond Sailor
Great job Mike, Hope it's still blowin.
Maybe he will open some eyes as to what a well sailed H16 can do. That is a radical pitchpole in the picture on the first page of this thread. Good job though. | | | Re: Steeple Chase
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#91681 12/10/06 12:22 PM 12/10/06 12:22 PM |
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 894 Branford, CT rhodysail
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Posts: 894 Branford, CT | That is a radical pitchpole in the picture on the first page of this thread.
Yes but they finished the race, and they finished well. The kids ROCK! We want more pictures. | | | Re: Steeple Chase
[Re: Mary]
#91682 12/10/06 12:25 PM 12/10/06 12:25 PM |
Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... Mary
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Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... | Okay, the first boat around the mark at the Sheraton (now some other name) was Tybee (John Casey/Kenny Pierce). The second boat was ?? (sorry, it's a kid at the beach sports place, and he is not a very good observer. But at least he is calling in.) I'm guessing the second boat was the Titcombs on Nacra 20.
Third boat around was the F18 with Mike Krantz/Dave Lennard.
Eric Roberts/David Weir on the ARC 22 are out because they dismasted.
So now we are down to six boats coming to the finish, one-third of the initial fleet.
Pretty soon I will have to leave to get over to the beach with some food for the early arrivals. | | | Re: Steeple Chase
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#91683 12/10/06 12:26 PM 12/10/06 12:26 PM |
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 851 US Western Continental Shelf hobiegary
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Posts: 851 US Western Continental Shelf | Wow what a wonderful thread, folks! Thanks Mary for the reporting and thanks to everyone for your reports, comments, and photographs! I really enjoyed reading it and finding out hat everyone is accounted for.
To the participants: Way to go, you tough and rough catsailing fanatics! Sorry about the snapped mast, the one hour of team separation, and the various pitch poles. Hard core!
Tom, can you help me with a definition for "204 204 204?"
Was the PLB found? Will the owner be receiving a citation for a $10,000 fine? Was the U.S. Coast Guard pissed off? Will the finder of the PLB be offered a reward?
My gps has a start up screen that says "call for reward" and it brought my gps back to me once.
Great photos People! I'm looking forward to viewing Jake's video.
GARY
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#91685 12/10/06 12:30 PM 12/10/06 12:30 PM |
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Posts: 3,348 | . . . The kids ROCK! We want more pictures. Yes they do, and so does the boat. More pictures indeed. | | | Re: Steeple Chase
[Re: Mary]
#91687 12/10/06 01:37 PM 12/10/06 01:37 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,293 Long Beach, California John Williams
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Posts: 3,293 Long Beach, California | Gary - "204" is a tribal chant, first heard at the dawn of time when Tommy had lots of hair (check out the Hotline pics).
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- The harder you practice, the luckier you get - Gary Player, pro golfer
After watching Lionel Messi play, I realize I need to sail harder.
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#91690 12/10/06 02:07 PM 12/10/06 02:07 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe Wouter
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Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe | Before we all start hailing the H16 as the ultimate but sadly unrecognized racing cat, shouldn't we first switch from CORRECTED time results to ELAPSED time results.
You can race a bath tub and still win the race if its handicap number is right. Still wouldn't make the bath tub anything other then a bad racing boat.
Wouter
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[Re: Mary]
#91694 12/10/06 05:25 PM 12/10/06 05:25 PM |
Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... Mary
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Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... | I finally got more on the story about the mysterious epirb that the Coast Guard could not track down during the Steeplechase.
Larry Ferber had misplaced (lost?) his life jacket with his personal epirb, so for the Steeplechase he brought a larger epirb that he normally uses on a bigger boat.
This epirb got stuffed in the back of his big tramp bag that was also stuffed full of lots of other mysterious stuff that sailors carry on their boats.
After they left the beach, his crew looked in the tramp bag to check for the epirb but could not see it because of all the stuff in there, so they thought it had been left at the launch area, and they did not even know it was with them.
At some point during the race it self-activated. Since it does not make an audible, apparently it was going off for hours until they cleaned out their tramp bag after finishing at Anne's beach and found the epirb and saw it blinking.
Why did it go off? Larry says that particular epirb is not supposed to go off until it is at least 4 l/2 feet underwater. So he surmises that it happened because of the volume and velocity of water being taken over the bow. The tramp bag got full of water that could not drain out, so he thinks the pressure built up in the tramp bag to the point where the epirb activated. He said the tramp bag was cram full of water.
The interesting thing is that, even though that epirb is supposed to provide GPS coordinates, the Coast Guard could not find Larry's boat, which was fine and heading for the finish line at Anne's Beach.
Meanwhile, we were all worried about Larry and Dale, and the Coast Guard was searching for them.
A Coast Guard officer from Key West called me to tell me about the epirb going off, but he did not sound overly concerned. He said, "I know catamarans capsize and then get righted, so it probably got activated and didn't turn off." This attitude concerned me, because now I was worried that they wouldn't be searching for him.
Another Coast Guard person called me later and told me that they did have coordinates from the epirb at one point,"but those were old coordinates."
The only thing I can think is that maybe parts of the Keys are in a "blind spot" -- just like many cell phones don't work in certain parts of the Keys.
Anyway, it is a concern for at least four reasons: 1. That the epirb did not seem to help for locating Larry's boat. 2. That the epirb self-activated but Larry had no way of knowing that, since it does not make a sound. 3. The Coast Guard spent a lot of time searching for no reason. 4. If there are false epirb signals like this, maybe the rescue agencies will not them seriously when they are REALLY serious.
Larry says the personal epirb that he normally carries on his life jacket can only be activated manually, and that is what he will be carrying from now on.
However, I am still curious why the Coast Guard could not get coordinates and could not find him. Maybe it is because we are in the Devil's Triangle?? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" /> | | | Anybody got results???
[Re: Mary]
#91695 12/10/06 05:45 PM 12/10/06 05:45 PM |
Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,224 Roanoke Island ,N.C. Team_Cat_Fever
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Posts: 3,224 Roanoke Island ,N.C. | How's 'bout some results, Official or not we don't care.
"I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!"
The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea Isak Dinesen If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most. E. B. White
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#91696 12/10/06 05:49 PM 12/10/06 05:49 PM |
Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... Mary
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Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... | You guys are pretty demanding. I did have to feed the sailors before feeding information to the masses. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
Well, only six sailors finished the whole race. Seven started this morning, but Eric Roberts/David Weir on the ARC 22 broke their mast early on this morning on day 2. Haven't heard the story yet, but eyewitness report that it was definitely a break rather than a simple dismasting.
Results on corrected time: 1 John Casey/Kenny Pierce (Nacra 20) 2 Michael Siau/Linday Young (Hobie 16) 3 Chris Titcomb/Nate Titcomb (Nacra 20) 4 Mike Krantz/David Lennard (F18) 5 Jake Kohl/Frank Moore (Nacra 20) 6 Larry Ferber/Dale Larkin (Nacra 20)
Overall winners on elapsed time were Casey/Pierce with elapsed time of 8:33:44 for the two days.
It was upwind all the way today.
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