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Re: Steeple Chase [Re: hobie1616] #91737
12/13/06 02:48 PM
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Because I opted not to sail on Saturday, I was at Gilberts to watch the boats go under the bridge. As good as the video is, it really does not do justice to just how swift the current was going under the bridge or the amount of effort required by the crews to get under the bridge. Someone needs to ask the Cat in the Hat guys how they managed to sail past all the other boats and under the bridge without tacking on their first attempt. Good job guys.


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Re: Steeple Chase [Re: ksurfer2] #91738
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According to the video, that was team tybee :P

And it was all Kenny.

That video was like:
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Re: Steeple Chase [Re: MauganN20] #91739
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JC and Kenny go through at the beginning of the video. Well after they went through, Cat in the Hat sails through no problem.


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Re: Steeple Chase [Re: ksurfer2] #91740
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OIC. MY BAD.

Re: Competitor Account [Re: Chris9] #91741
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injured yourself if the sheet was wrapped on your hand.


Sure bring that up again! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />


And again, and again, and again...

So, how is the wing? And, did you notice Jim's repeated cameo in the movie? Just when you think "well Jim's finally through" there he goes back under the bridge to try again! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Can't wait to hear him describe it...

Re: Steeple Chase [Re: MauganN20] #91742
12/13/06 03:44 PM
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Thanks for the video Jake!! Great entertainment!!

A couple of observations (and a couple of guesses):

First both Tybee & Ollie (Capricorn) made it through AS the bridge was going up. While Tybee has experience here, this was Ollie's first time. Granted, Ollie was smart enough to recognize and follow Tybee's lead, but I suspect the wind did bend differently (as suggested in the clip) once the bridge was up, possibly making it more difficult on the rest of us.

Secondly, it became obvious quickly that you HAD to approach from the far side with as much speed as possible WITH a strong paddle. We realized this after our first failed attempt (sail #1003). Our second attempt was successful thanks to that approach.

Third...Cat in The hat did NOT start from the far shore, but was sucessful (I "think") because they went through in our lee (current wise) and thanks to some strong paddling.

BTW...I still have some of Jake's blue gel coat on my Stbd bow from that failed first attempt!!

It was crazy to be certain!! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

JL


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Re: Steeple Chase [Re: JoeLeonard] #91743
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BTW...I still have some of Jake's blue gel coat on my Stbd bow from that failed first attempt!!


Holy smokes. This time last year he was putting that mess on the boat. I could see him cringe when they ran that beauty up on the beach <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Re: Steeple Chase [Re: MauganN20] #91744
12/13/06 05:17 PM
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The Steeplechase is, as crazy as it is, my favorite race of the year. That's why you get so many Northern folks making the crazy drive down there for the fun.

Every year I've done the Steeplechase there has been something different to talk about.

I was there in '98 when most of the fleet got demolished. I ended up looking for a lost sailor for most of the day after I lost track of him trying to pick him up.

I sacrifice a lot of cash and hassle trying to do this race every year. Thanks to lot's of folks who helped me get there this year.

We were listening to the weather radio on Friday and they were calling for 20-25 knots on Saturday. This didn't motivate me to put my boat together. My crew had never done a distance race and I don't think had really considered that I might actually pull the plug and not go out. My crew I think was getting a little pissed at me screwing around and not putting the boat together. Finally I decided I'd get it together and be ready in case the forecast was wrong. Forecasts are never right anyway?.

At one point on Friday they were calling for 15-20knots and I started to think that we would do the race.

We got up Saturday morning and turned the radio on only to hear 20-25 knots gusting to 30 knots. Also there were some showers in the area. I knew this was way past the fun factor and decided to bag it. While I might have survived it I wouldn't have had fun. Also my equipment could have been destroyed. My crew isn't experienced enough to handle the boat by herself in that much wind. The other thing that I was really thinking about was what if the weather is a little worse than predicted. Even if only for a short time 40-50 knots can make a really bad day.

I'm happy with my decision. It was the right decision for me and my crew. No reason to go out and kill myself and my crew.

We hooked up with an old friend of mine and went out on his powerboat to grab some pictures right at the Tavernier Creek. Neat seeing everyone go by. Funny that the wind and waves when we were out there didn't seem that bad. None of the N20's were running chutes when they went by us. All of them were just in survival mode. Krantz and Lennard were the only ones running their chute when they went by.

The amazing thing was how close the H16 was to everybody when it went by. I couldn't believe how he was right on the heels of all the boats. Ahead of a few boats. We saw the reefed Supercat go by and not 10 minutes behind them were Team Tybee. Then Accelerated Chaos, Seacats, H16, then Layline.

The pictures I took are up on Jake's website at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/teamseacats/sets/72157594412944888/

It really did blow 20-25 with gusts all the way to 30. Everyone went over that did the race at least once. I talked to the H16 skipper, Mike Saiu, and he said that I caught his 5th pitchpole with the picture. I asked why he was so far out when he went by and he said that everytime he Gybed he pitchpoled. He was trying to minimize the Gybes. I did see one gybe without a pitchpole so I think he was exagerating a little.

[img]http://static.flickr.com/131/318995784_6d5035412e.jpg?v=0[/img]

By the way if you ever get to Tavernier creek the little marina by the drawbridge makes the best spicy cuban I've ever had. I'll be back for one of those for sure. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Sunday was pretty dull it only blew 15-25 knots. They finished pretty quick. We went out on Sunday and played in the bays and the cut a little. It was a really nice day. Right at the verge of what we can handle. We passed Tybee and Accelerated Chaos in Grouper Creek. I even caught Kenny paddling a little in there. The cuts were really easy with the extra wind and the direction.

Quite a bit of mayham and damage. Two broken masts. 1 seperated crew. We were listening to the Coast Guard and they were seriously active looking for people during the race. I could hear the epirb going off in the background when they transmitted information. I could hear the plane spotting the crew in the water. It was all very Deja vu of '98 for me. Luckily this year the wind wasn't blowing directly offshore like it was that year.

Out of 18 that came down to do the race only 6 finished. My hat is off to those harty soles. See you next year.

Mike Hill
www.stlouiscats.com


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Re: Steeple Chase [Re: Stuart_Douglas] #91745
12/13/06 05:45 PM
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Hi Stuart,

Yeah, I bought Bill and Eric Roberts old boat which is a Supercat 20 Tall Rig. The mast is 38 1/2 feet. By reefing it you turn it into a short rig. Looking back, I should have brought my short rig sail and used that. Next day we have good wind, I am going to fit the short rig sail so we will be better prepared.

Eric Roberts ran their ARC 22 reefed and were first to the beach.


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Re: Steeple Chase [Re: JoeLeonard] #91746
12/14/06 08:05 AM
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The deal was that you just had to get a puff at the right moment and have a clear run across the span of the bridge to get through. If you watch Cat in the Hat, you see them get good acceleration when they're about 2/3 across the span. Early on, you see us get a great high speed run at it but were left without much air when we got 1/3 the way across. Paddling like a mo-fo didn't hurt either but you still wouldn't get across without a good puff at some point under the bridge.


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Re: re: Thanks Mary. [Re: Jake] #91747
12/14/06 08:17 AM
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Thank you Jake, for that Video

I was thinking that if you could get one hull out of the water it would be much easy to pass that obstacle,

Last regatta we had here it was light wind, The crew traped to the leeward side lifting the Hull out of the water,
that made the boat go a lot faster.

I could hear a voise in the background of the video giving their own prospective on every thing, encouraging the teams... that made the video more enjoyable to watch


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Video [Re: Erez] #91748
12/14/06 09:45 AM
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Watching the teams trying so hard on the video is one thing but if you could only feel the stiff wind that was right on thier nose and that current... It was really strong. You couldn't help but try to 'will' them through.
David Strickland's wife Robin took the video.

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Re: Video [Re: SunnyZ] #91749
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Wendy:

Send me email link. Hope all is well? Still haven't spent any time on 4.3

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Re: Video [Re: SunnyZ] #91750
12/14/06 05:40 PM
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Wendy, Nice job rooting them on. I thought it was torture just to watch the video! Makes me shudder just to think about it. Really admire those guys! PS: you owe us some more stories of your boat...

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