Pissed they ditched cats from the AC....... Finaly saw potential for the AC to be interesting. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

PRE-XACTLY!

If I'm not mistaken theres also a S&S edition H21SE.

Maugan, you are correct. Hobie did the 17, 18 & 21 with the S&S blue hulls (trophy blue), white hull caps, black mesh tramp and R/W/B sail configuration. Some had variations in the color panel placement, large block USA on the sails and a special numbering sequence.

Tom G

that whole A.C. episode was strange. imagine putting up a planning monohull to beat all other designs. they must not have thought conner would use a multihull. i heard conners could have won with the formula 40 that they used to teach him how to sail a cat on. that boat was on maui, but i wonder if it got destroyed in a kona storm. actually there were 2 40's sent here from that project. one was french and one a morrelli. they were going to give rides, but i think the wind is alittle strong for that considreing the limited level of cat knowledge the captain had.
in 1976 the hobie 16 had a stars and stripes addition.
cheers, dr

Does anyone know how many models of each were made? I saw a S&S TheMightyHobie18 on ebay a couple months ago.

From Scuttlebutt 2259
NEW RECORD
KEY WEST, FLA. (January 12, 2007) – Stars & Stripes, the Custom 60
multihull owned by Steve and Scott Liebel (Bradenton, Fla.), broke the
multihull race record in the 2007 Fort Lauderdale to Key West Race.
Reporting maximum boat speed at 32 knots during the race, Stars &
Stripes crossed the finish line with an elapsed time of 8 hours, 31
minutes, 4 seconds to take line honors, smashing the old record of 10
hours, 11 minutes established in 2005 by Zephyr. This year’s running of
the 160-nautical mile race, which began on January 10, was one of the
fastest, with consistent wind of 20-plus-knots the entire night, giving
the fleet “a fast and fun experience,” as one crew member characterized
it. In fact, this is the third time in the past five years that a race
record has been broken. Four boats retired early from the race due to
damage.

The overall IRC fleet winner, on corrected time, was Decision, the R/P
52 owned by Stephen Murray Jr. (New Orleans, La.), which also won the
seven-boat IRC A class. The overall winner in the PHRF fleet,
Dreadnought, was one of two entries from the U.S. Naval Academy and
skippered by Midshipman Burchett (Annapolis, Md.). – Media Pro Int’l,
Fort Lauderdale to Key West Race results are online at:
http://www.yachtscoring.com

BTW, each Hobie dealer was allocated one Stars and Stripes of each model. Hobie Cats Northwest had two local shops. My Son Tom bought H-17 #144, Bob Whistler bought the other H-17. Tom's H-17 is in our picture, still racing with the original sail.

Caleb Tarleton

its too bad they lost the cup for violating the cups gift of deeds because of advertising

In the Key West race, what was the elapsed time for the fastest Monohull? I just want to see a side by side comparison: fast mono vs. fast cat. Also, do they start the Monos first, then the multihulls?

And the look could best be described ... ??

GARY

My S+S TheMightyHobie18 had a white tramp that matched the decks.

GARY

Lack of conviction?

...as looking like the dog when she gets caught trying to snag some food off the kitchen counter.

Of course he could have beat him with a Hobie 17, with enough wind, say 40MPH?

Hey H1616, back on your side of the pond for three weeks. Maybe we can do Hula Grill again. Will send you a PM.

The Kiwi boat wasn't all that fast. A H17 would have beat them in any conditions.

Instead of the Hula Grill we can try either Pacific'O or the Lahaina YC. Pacific'O is an excellent place for lunch.

Unless the Kiwi boat got to windward of the H17. Hellofa wind shadow that would be for a small boat to overcome...

Keith, that is a common problem I have at Anthony's, our Friday night series. Multihulls start last, so we have to pick our way thru the big mono's. It always works to tack clear to their windward, than come down to pass.

Yep. The fun starts when you're in a big mono fleet spread out wide and converging on a turning mark. Last year's Oxford/Hammond Memorial races were a great exercise in wind shadow/collision avoidance sailing! On some points of sail the larger racing monos aren't that slow - trying to reel in some of the PHRF A0 boats upwind is an eye opener, as would be trying to catch some of them downwind without a chute.

Bottom line - based on performance alone I'm not sure it's a slam dunk that a stock Hobie-17 would beat the Kiwi big boat in a windward-leeward race. Makes for a fun daydream though...