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Best solo heavyweight... #96169
01/15/07 01:42 AM
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The question to you hotshots is which is the best solo boat for a 6'5", 240 pound person. A-Cat is out. Hobie FX-1? N-17R? Are there other choices?
Thanks for any help.
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Re: Best solo heavyweight... [Re: jgrady] #96170
01/15/07 03:27 AM
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Re: Best solo heavyweight... [Re: Buccaneer] #96171
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I weigh about the same as you and find the Nacra 16ft square a good challange. One man with a good size sail which means you get a good power to weight ratio.
I also can right it solo as with the standard sealed mast It doesn't turtle.

Re: Best solo heavyweight... [Re: Bandit] #96172
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I've never heard of a Nacra 16 square. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Re: Nacra 16 square [Re: Mary] #96173
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Put a spinny on it and a modern square top. Then shave 30Kgs off it and you've almost got an F16. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Alternatively, get the real thing in the form of a Stealth or Blade F16!!!

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Re: Nacra 16 square [Re: Jalani] #96174
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Okay, but I have never heard of a Nacra 16, period. Maybe it is called something else in the U.S.? Or maybe we don't have it in the U.S. at all.

All the Nacras in North America are named in terms of meters, not feet. So why would there be a Nacra in Europe and in Australia that is described in terms of "feet" instead of meters? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Re: Best solo heavyweight... [Re: jgrady] #96175
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Do you want to be in a racing fleet or just goof around by yourself? If you want to race, you are limited to a few single-handed boats. And if you want to race in your local area, solo, you are limited to what everyone else is racing single handed, unless you want to race on corrected time only.

If you want to play, you could get any good used two person boat and sail it alone, for quite a bit less money. Every two person boat can be sailed solo, you just have to pick your wind. The mast raising might be a problem on any boat (except an A cat) if you can't get someone to help.

What's wrong with the Prindle 19?

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Re: Best solo heavyweight... N17R [Re: jgrady] #96176
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The N17R/F17 can handle your weight. There were a couple of guys in MI (CRAM) that sailed the F17 with an optional larger class spinnaker. The boat can handle up to 340 lbs.

Ideal for a heavy-weight single hander. There maybe a couple of used ones coming to the market. Check out www.nacraracing.com for details (class rules for optional larger spinnaker). If my attachment went through I believe that the green I17R has a larger spinnaker.

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Re: Best solo heavyweight... N17R [Re: Ken_H] #96177
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Re: Nacra 16 square [Re: Mary] #96178
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Mary,

The Nacra 16 square was only sold by nacra Australia and can only be found in Australia itself and New Zealand and southern Asia like Singapore/Thailand.

The 16 refers to the sail area and not the length of the hulls. Just like the nacra 18 square.

Wouter


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Re: Best solo heavyweight... [Re: Bandit] #96179
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Bandit and Buccaneer,

It appears that the guy asking is in the USA, so why are we advicing boats to him that are only available in Australia or that are dead ?

Neither the Nacra 16 square or Taipan can be bought new in the USA. The 16 square is not even available as a second hander in the USA and the US Taipans have all been rebuild into F16's. Correct me if I'm wrong but is the Taipan still even build ? Not by AHPC. They have terminated production in anticipation of their new Viper F16 and that design will be available in the US contrary to the two others named.


Wouter

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Re: Best solo heavyweight... [Re: Wouter] #96180
01/15/07 09:43 AM
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As reliable as the sun rising in the morning, a "what kind of boat should I get" thread has an F16 nominated in less than 5 posts :P

Re: Best solo heavyweight... [Re: jgrady] #96181
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Quote

The question to you hotshots is which is the best solo boat for a 6'5", 240 pound person. A-Cat is out. Hobie FX-1? N-17R? Are there other choices?



There is a better choice even.

Formula 16

(much) Lighter, faster and also better class structure then the others named.

In relation to the FX-one it is much cheaper as well.

Probably the only serious competition to the F16's in the US are the A's and nacra 17's

But it should beat both anyway.

To bad the 2 nacra 17's wouldn't take the F16 class up on the invitation to start with them at the tradewinds regatta last weekend. Here the F16's had their own start and racing fleet because of the number of F16's entered.

Would have been nice to see the two really square up head to head. One decided not to come at all and the other opted to start in the open portsmouth class.


Wouter


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Re: Best solo heavyweight... [Re: jgrady] #96182
01/15/07 09:48 AM
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18 Square, of course! Want one?


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Re: Best solo heavyweight... [Re: Wouter] #96183
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To bad the 2 nacra 17's wouldn't take the F16 class up on the invitation to start with them at the tradewinds regatta last weekend. Here the F16's had their own start and racing fleet because of the number of F16's entered.

Wouter


Only 1 Nacra 17 raced, and I don't think he had a choice of fleets.

Rumor has it, Bob Curry sold his 17 and bought an A cat. I can't confirm one way or the other.

Re: Best solo heavyweight... [Re: fin.] #96184
01/15/07 10:44 AM
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I would go with a marstrom or DK 17 or XJ A class and have fun. Get a stiff mast and a full sail to match. It will be a long time before you can outsail the boat unless you are already a world class sailor. Plus, you have alot of other sailors to play with at nationals.

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Re: Best solo heavyweight... [Re: jgrady] #96185
01/15/07 12:41 PM
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My choice would be the Hobie 17. Can't beat flying from the wing. We have several local H-17 racers your size. When the wind picks up, they leave the light weights way behind. Also, should be able to pick one up at a good price.

Caleb Tarleton
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Re: Best solo heavyweight... [Re: H17cat] #96186
01/15/07 01:09 PM
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ARC17, plenty of buoyancy, can be sailed 1 or 2 up, main, main/jib, main/jib/spin, no boards (nice if you sail in shallow water, or launch thru the surf a lot) strong, quality boat.
There are used older versions available under the name of Supercat 17. I use to sail one at 165lb solo most of the time but it should be an even better fit for you at 240#.

Re: Nacra 16 square [Re: Mary] #96187
01/15/07 02:38 PM
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16 square refers to area of sail not length of boat.

Re: Nacra 16 square [Re: warbird] #96188
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Interesting that NACRA Australia produced a different range of boats to its Americain counterpart. I would like to see some pics of the 18 sq as I cant see it on www.nacra.us
How long is the 18 sq?

Nacra should be releasing its new boat the NACRA SL 16 for the US market. Might be worth checking out. I hope they release it in Aus...

http://www.nacra.us/SL16/slindex.html

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