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Getaway Repairs #96362
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Hi folks
I'm new to the forum & impressed by what I've seen so far.
I've seen good information both on plastic welding and epoxy repairs to rotomoulds and am planning repairs to our club(Dukhan Watersports ) getaways.
We had a total transom separation of one of the hulls and I'm worried that if I simply repair the pintle cracks of the other hulls the structure holding the pintles may still not be strong enough.
Currently I'm contemplating bonding glass or kevlar inside over the foam & onto the angle bracket holding the pintle posts.
anyone tackled this problem ?

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Re: Getaway Repairs [Re: ceweed] #96363
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Hi folks
I'm new to the forum & impressed by what I've seen so far.


You, no doubt have not read the "Test" thread have you? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Getaway Repairs [Re: ceweed] #96364
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We had a total transom separation of one of the hulls and I'm worried that if I simply repair the pintle cracks of the other hulls the structure holding the pintles may still not be strong enough.


There is no way to weld the materials that the Getaway is built from. Transom failure should be reviewed by your dealer and or country's distributor. The hull may have some warranty compensation available depending on age.


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Which hull is damaged? I may have a used one, also what is your location? I am in Delray Beach, Fla

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Which hull is damaged? I may have a used one, also what is your location? I am in Delray Beach, Fla


many thanks for the offer , I'm in Dukhan , appx 100km south of Baharain & accross the water from Saudi. The problem I have is getting the company ( something to do with petroleum & qatar ) to organise collection. last I heard we had hulls awaiting collection from Hobie GB for one of the getaways. its a procedural nightmare <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

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We had a total transom separation of one of the hulls and I'm worried that if I simply repair the pintle cracks of the other hulls the structure holding the pintles may still not be strong enough.


There is no way to weld the materials that the Getaway is built from. Transom failure should be reviewed by your dealer and or country's distributor. The hull may have some warranty compensation available depending on age.


We have had 2 hull replacements held for us , but getting the company to organise collection is proving to be a saga .
That leaves us with one getaway with cracks at the pintles .
What supports the steelwork behind the pintles ? On the one that separated there seemed to be appx 8mm depth foam but the foam seems friable & not contributing to the strength .

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Bummer about the wait. Long way from the factory here I guess. Likely Hobie USA, France, GB then you.

There are metal fittings molded into the transom. You may have to drill through and reinforce from the inside.

For a temp repair I suggest installing inspection ports in the aft decks. Make some wood pieces that would fit through the hatch and then fit together in the transom. Fill the area with a dense flotation foam and set the wood into it. The foam creating a foundation for the wood. Then through bolt the pintels.

Just an idea... untried.


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many thanks for the tips
I'd been considering kevlar inside ( bummed some off one of the pipe repair contractors ) but the wood inserts would make it easier to get some higher density foam under control.
Should I try and get rid of the existing foam , it doesn't seem to have any strength & is friable ?
nearly have the plan now <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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The only "foam" in the Getaway hull is liniar polyethelyene. The entire inner hull is coated with this. It is melted in with the outer skin. Just leave in.

Note: Likely the transom failure is from not enough of the foam reaching back there during fabrication.


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Many thanks again Matt.
I did a bond test against the existing foam , not very good , but the way foam wets and expands it should do the trick strenghtening the existing.

"Likely the transom failure is from not enough of the foam reaching back there during fabrication. "
The support angle bracket did look lonely without the foam to support. I think the repair plan should get the craft baco on the water nice n safe


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