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question for the 2 up sailors #96994
01/22/07 01:03 AM
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Took the mossie out for the first time 2up and noticed that the leeward bows wanted to dig into the water.
We had about 150kg on board and both sitting back.
Anyone have any ideas on why and maybe how to fix it.
I only had 1 trap wire hooked up would having to hooked up be better?

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William


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Re: question for the 2 up sailors [Re: wildtoy] #96995
01/22/07 03:59 AM
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Not realy mate, twin traps only mean you will load the boat up more and drive the bow deeper. There was a bit on Yesterday. Start of the race was averaging 15 gusting 20 and picked up to 25 gusting 30 by 3.00pm. Good decision to can the last race as the breeze was still building.

150 kg I would imagine would be a bit on the heavy side for a Mozzie....... 120, 130 would be much better.

Don't feel so bad, we had 164 kg hanging of the back of the Capricorn and dropped the nose in a few times. No cartwheel though..... but a few close calls.


Re: question for the 2 up sailors [Re: Tornado_ALIVE] #96996
01/22/07 04:10 AM
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You and Brent where hanging onto something that had alot of sail area.
We had 162kg and less sail area so we shouldnt have really have nose dived like we did <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />.
Rather have nose dived than lose the rig though


Re: question for the 2 up sailors [Re: wildtoy] #96997
01/22/07 05:57 AM
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As long as you are both up the back, I would say the only thing that would help is more twist in the head of the main, ie. let more mainsheet out. But if you want to go fast, pushing the limits is the only way, sticking a bow in comes with the territory. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Regards Gary. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Re: question for the 2 up sailors [Re: ] #96998
01/22/07 06:11 AM
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I guess youre right there we were overloaded and we were still pushing decent speed.
Learnt alot yesterday so we'll see how we go on Australia day.


Re: question for the 2 up sailors [Re: wildtoy] #96999
01/22/07 07:48 AM
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Will,

Extreme conditions mean extreme risk/fun. I can only think that you could reduce the lateral force applied by the jib by using a barber hauler system to flatten it out a bit. You would probably have the traveller let out a fair bit anyway in those sorts of conditions.

Regards,

Peter


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