I'm also sorry Wouter, but like the tail wagging the dog this public forum can never dictate to the F16 Governing Council. Yes it is a very good tool for the F16 Class when used correctly but don't kid yourself too much I wouldn't have thought that many people have bought an F16 on the back of it. If you think having a Forum specifically for people with a proper connection to the F16 Class is a 'tight control' I would beg to differ. This suggested Forum, being recogniesd by the various association members and GC would to my mind do the exact opposite. So if you're concerned that some hobie 14 sailor from a place which I never knew existed felt left out then so be it. They should buy a proper Cat <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />