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Wow!! you guys are out of control. This certainly is an entertaining forum.

I dont apprieciate being miss quoted Wouter. How are you supposed to have any credibility when you cant get that right. You know what im talking about. I assure you that Carbon masts are one expensive item where im from. They are cool tho. But is that what you guys want? Cause thats where it will end up.

I look at the limited pictures available of the viper and i like what i see. The only way that i would be interested in getting into the class is if i could buy a boat from a reputable builder like AHPC, hobie, nacra, cirrus...and know that my boat isn't going to be made obselete by the next super boat that cost twice the price.

Until last night i thought that the spitfire was a F16. Its a damn shame that its not cause it looks like a very cool little boat with some cool people behind it.

Sue
Interesting comments
1) "Carbon masts are one expensive item where im from." I find it very interesting that John, the builder of the Stealth, removes some of the mystique involved with carbon and offers them at a very modest upcharge, unlike other manufacturers.

2) "if i could buy a boat from a reputable builder" And this implies the current F16 builders are un-reputable?

Regarding having boats at minimum weight. My observations are that in the upper 5% of ANY class advantages are gained by whatever means possible and perception plays a big part of that advantage over competitors. Some believe (or have convinced themselves) small percentage differences may encumber their chance of consistently winning and they'll play every possible option out, to the hilt, so to leave no doubt in their competitors mind.


John H16, H14