I'm not claiming perfect temporal memory here, but I am claiming I was "there at the time" and that the "Peter Cogan route" is correct. There were only three founding members : Phill Brander, Kirt Simmons and myself.
I know because I personally formed this group together with the other two. John was indeed a quick addition as I said earlier myself but he did come later.
If you will we can call him part of the "founding group" denoting everybody that became involved in the first few months after the decision to form this F16 class. That group will indeed encompass something like 20-30 people.
