Just to be clear, my question was not aimed particularly at the issue of relative performance between F18 and Tornado. Rather, from an elite sailor's point of view, does either one have any attributes that make it a better test of sailing skill at that level than the other? I asked because of the fact that some organizations are proposing the F18, and so I'm just curious about whether the competitors would care. Maybe not. I've never sailed a Tornado and only crewed on an F18, so I'm just curious. But as you say, no need to have a debate at this point.