It depended on the wind conditions. Sometimes I had to foot on the H-17 or it would stall. And we can't compare A cats. Those things are so DAMM light they will sail in anything. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> Yes I meant as SOON as you go head to wind crack the sheet loose about 2-3 feet of main sheet. As said you must be sheeted in hard with speed as you start the tack or that to can cause you to go into irons. Just takes practice with that type of boat. All are a little different. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Doug