I'm not going to send you copy's of measurement forms Macca, and you can spin that every way you want.

Nevertheless the fact of the matter will remain that the data is sound and others like TonyF18 are confirming that the Nacra 17's in their area are being measured as lighter then the acclaimed 150-158kg (www.texelrating.org and www.nacraeurope.com). The only exception are the aging orginal nacra inter 17's that are indeed typically on the heavy side (+150kg).





There is NO standard F17 !

We have had 7 different Nacra 17 designs over the last 10 years and to put the icing on the cake we note that the US F17 has a different mainsail area then the F17 offered in Europe by www.nacraeurope.com. The difference being respectively 16.45 sq. mtr to 15.25 sq. mtr.; a whole 1.25 sq. mtr !

Hell, The nacra 17 design has had more design changes then all the boats in our TRUE Formula 16 class combined.

But I must admit, the newest iteration of the alu masted nacra 17 footer appears to be alot better boat then the original inter 17 you guys started out with 10 years ago. So at least there is progress.

And I stand by my point that the Nacra 17's appear to be converging to the F16 specifications and that is the source of much amusement on my side.

I mean, how big is the difference between a 15.00 sq. mtr (F16) mainsail and a 15.25 sq.mtr (EU F17) mainsail ? Or between an AHPC alu wingmast and the Infusion alu wingmast ? Between a 17.5 sq. mtr spinnaker (F16) and a 17/19 sq. mtr spinnaker (F17) ? Between a 3.70 sq.mtr selftacking jib (F16) and a 3.45 sq. mtr. selftacking jib (F17). Between a 5.00 mtr long hull (F16) and a 5.23 mtr long hull (F17). Between a class designed and optimized for 1-up/2-up versatility and level racing against the F18's and a class now marketed as a 1-up/2-up versatile boat that is optimized for 110-145 kg crews that are looking for an alternative to the F18 class ? Between the name F16 and the name F17 ?

A copy cat class if ever there was one.

I guess the following two sayings are true.


"Nothing creates contempt like succes"

"Copying is the highest form of flattery"


Yes I think you can say that I'm throroughly enjoying this !

Its the proof that my "useless ivory tower mathematics" of the era 2000-2001 was indeed spot on !

Wouter