Hey guys ( and rumour has it that includes Sue ) sorry but at the end of my sailing day which would I sooner push up the slip way, my F16 at 104kgs or a F17 at 159kgs, no contest really. I sold my Nacra 5.2 built in 1986 which weighed trimed down to solo sailing around 150kgs for that very reason, great boat, what a pain to move around on your own. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />