Thanks!

I did a check on the cheap BMC model, and it was 15.3 lbs for like $3,800.00. I couldn't believe it until I saw the SRAM group which is fine. I guess that group has helped bring the price down. I'm a little behind on the technology since 2004 I guess. My frame is a 2004 Titanium Litespeed Vortex. (Dura Ace .... 59cm) It's about 15.5 or so but cost around $3,300 used from the plant in Chattanooga, TN (in 2005) with full warranty.

I still worry about those carbon frames though since I've seen several broken in half, and as you know, there's no warranty when you are involved in a crash. They do look good though. I've crashed twice on the Litespeed and got busted up both times, but the bike was fine....

Tom

btw, I broke my mast once on my Nacra F17 so maybe that's part of my problem with the carbon fiber bikes.