Originally Posted by Jake
Originally Posted by Team_Cat_Fever
Originally Posted by Jake
Originally Posted by Team_Cat_Fever
Originally Posted by Jake
I know I didn't spend much time in College, but would my signature be considered "racist" too? Or is it ok to bash on a white boy? Is it ok if I have a bunch of white friends?
Mark Schnider...I wasn't talking about the law but I wouldn't expect you to understand that anyway.


Not really. White people in government housing isn't such a high rate (I'm hypothesizing..haven't looked this up) that a "racist" would consider it an intrinsic characteristic of people with white skin...so it doesn't have the same kind of bite. However, on the other hand, the perception is that a significant percentage of government housing is occupied by african americans and to infer that the this is because of the color of their skin IS racist.

Are you saying that you don't think the previously discussed statement was racist?


That's some hypocritical,spun ,bullshite, that makes YOU look racist. Just because you think you're being righteous doesn't mean you're not being racist. Trying to justify it with hypothetical percentages and stats is weak ,at best.


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the perception is that a significant percentage of government housing is occupied by african americans

So if this( or ,say inmate statistics) turns out to be fact instead of perception, how the F*** is it racist to point out a statistical fact. Are you really so scared you are going to hurt someone's feelings or piss someone off that you'll ignore those facts while refusing to ignore all of bacho's posts ?

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I can turn that around on you a thousand ways. C'mon man.

And in the end isn't that exactly what libs do best.

Jake, I'm glad we don't talk politics when we see each other, it would seriously cut in to some good drinking and boat talk time.


Todd, give me a freakin' break. You think turning it around is a "liberal thing"? Seriously? If that's so, it's because you guys make it so darn easy. Try this; Why aren't you the "bigger man" here and hush here as Lee recommended when he didn't agree with what I said? That piss you off? It did me.

In the post you quoted, all I did was provide a logical (and actual) definition of racism pointing out why Lee's reverse example wasn't really racist. It wasn't a racist statement because the majority of people in government housing probably aren't white. I didn't look up the statistics so I quoted "perception". Which is really what racism is based on anyway. Are you really worried that I used "perception" instead of fact? Does that really bother you?



Nope, I'm not really bothered by any of this except the oversensitivity. My point is if you find statistics saying any race is disproportionately represented in a situation (public housing, prisons, etc.) , you seem to think that it's racist if that is pointed out. Yet, in the same situation but the term white being used , you're OK with that. It's the same thing and should be treated the same.Personally ,I think everyone should HTFU and not be so overly sensitive. I'm definitely not defending racism, it exists and sucks , but this ain't a case of it. The current pres. is open game as was everyone before it as shown in one of Schneider's posts above. Are you going to stand up for Mitt Romney when the Mormon jokes start?

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You think turning it around is a "liberal thing"? Seriously? If that's so, it's because you guys make it so darn easy.


No, I think the reason is spin and subterfuge are all you've got. Facts don't seem to help your case.



I haven't quoted one statistic. I talked about perception.

Let me spell it out a different way. The statement in question "Obama is just another black man in government housing" is racist. It is racist because "...just another black man..." plays on the perception that African Americans make up a significant portion of people that partake of government provided housing and it infers that it is due to their skin color ("just another"). This is racist. It is not me trying to make anything of, or for, myself. This is not me "spinning" anything...in fact, if you look up the definition of "racism", you'll see that this fits within the definition and that the counter example does not. I also haven't brought politics or political persuasion into this.

This is the only fact that I've discussed...and I'm not sure how it doesn't help my case. It's pretty clear. In fact, you haven't even made a case other than I'm pissing you off. What is your point? Are you defending the statement "Obama is just another black man in government housing" as not racist? Are you saying that it belongs here?


You haven't pissed me off, I'm not sure you could.
I'm not defending racism ( It has affected me far more than you'll ever know), just thought your reaction, in multiple threads to 1 persons sig line was over the top. You stated how you felt, which you should, and then felt compelled to bully him in other threads until he dropped. That's my point.
So, I'll correct the word choice of my other example by saying- You're OK with religious bigotry, just not racism.

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