Not the same type incident Rolf. In the Airbus incident I posted, the Pilot was trying to go around, the airplane wouldn't let him. With the Turkish airline incident, the (idiot) pilots were not paying attention to their airspeed and allowed the airplane to get too slow.

The Airbus would not allow the Pilot to over-ride the thrust levers and flight controls, and basically flew itself into the ground.

In the Boeing 737 incident, if the pilots had simply pushed the thrust levers up, they never would have gotten too slow in the first place. There was a faulty radio altimiter indication which fooled the airplane into thinking it was near to the ground, but the PILOTS should have seen this immediately and corrected it.

This is exaclty what I was talking about earlier, about the piss poor training of pilots in the third world. They do auto lands all the time, and when something goes wrong, they are not skilled enough to see it, and make a simple correction, that would have easily saved the airplane.

We have a saying that is drilled into us starting with our primary flying lessons, ie. on lesson number 1.

Airspeed is Life!

Altitude is Life Insurance.

You never want to run out of both, at the same time. How the Turkish pilots couldn't see they were getting too slow is beyond me, but I was trained in the USA, and we hand fly all our approaches, all the time. We only do auto landings when the weather (Sever fog, nearly zero visability) requires it, and even then, we monitor the autopilot very closely, to be sure it's doing things correctly. And if it so much as burps, we disconnect it and hand fly it, or go around and go to a holding pattern somewhere, at a safe altitude, and sort it out.