We're talking about the ruddersetup as soon in the attachment which is linked to this post. (Picture doesn't show the laminated cross tiller bar and joystick; picture was taken by Jennifer Lindsay Taipan 221 Florida)

I'm back from the supermarket and there scales say : (these babies give measurements to the gram and are used to weight the vegtables and other stuff that the customer can measure off themselfs. They are regulary checked and tuned by a government controlled agency. These are electracle scales which are know to be very dependable)

The results :

I was wrong with my estimate of 1.5 kg for the trampoline ; it was actually 1,718 grams or 218 grams more than I said. With this the platform weight becomes 63,7 kg instead of the 63,5 kg that I gave earlier, halve a lbs more. Neglectable, indeed. Try to picture this weight guys, this is the same as a pot of thee.

Onto the next items

Rudder set

Rudderblade = 1.086 kg = 1086 grams = 2.4 lbs
Rudderstock = 0.526 kg = 536 grams = 1.16 lbs = just over a lbs
kick-up rod = 0.156 kg = 156 grams = 0.34 lbs = 1/3 rd of a lbs

total = 1,778 kg per side = 3,9 lbs = a shy 4 lbs => 3.556 kg per pair = 7,85 lbs.

I didn't measure the tillercrossbar and the joystick as these were to long (joystick = 9 ft). Still 1kg - 1.5 kg for them both combined feels right, My alu P16 crosstillerbar alone weights only 900 grams = 0.9 kg itself and the laminate one is are lighter. The joystick is a little lighter than the tillerbar. Maybe the whole setup is rather 3.5 + 1 = 4,5 kg = 10 lbs the than 5 kg = 11 lbs I used earlier but we're playing it save here and my bath room scale is not accurate to the 100 grams, I think. Anyway next time the supermarket scales aren't in a corner I will try to measure them too.


Daggerboard = 1.930 kg = 1930 grams = 4,26 lbs = just over 4 lbs. Per pair they are 3.86 kg = 8.5 lbs. So with the bath room scales I was pretty accurate at 10 lbs = 4.5 kg; still they are a little lighter. Together they are 8,5 lbs instead of the rounded off 10 lbs. This more then corrects for my 0.5 lbs mistake at the trampoline.

Now we have established that my bathroom scales are pretty accurate when the right methode is used I will now weight my Prindle 16 rudder board and casting.

3 P16 rudders held together are 8 kg = 2,667 kg per board = 5.88 lbs = say 6 lbs.
The casting is as good as 1 kg = 2,2 lbs

Together they are 8,1 lbs.

So only 1 P16/P18 rudderboard and 1 prindle casting (no crossbars, joysticks etc) weight about as much as the whole steering setup I've got.

Price of one rudder and one casting overhere where I live ; 360 + 340 Euro's = 700 euro's = 750 US$ at this time. For compete ruddersetup you need 2 of these = 1500 US$ + tiller and joystick = + 105 Euro's + 100 Euro = + 230 US$: total = 1730 US$ . Deduct taxes = 1730 US$ / 1.19 = 1453 US$ ex tax

So with the numbers I gave in my other post for my setup (750 US$ for all ex tax) I have hless than halve the weight for halve the cost of a P16 ruddersetup.

Wouter