Gentlemen,
There is a post elsewhere in this thread that belongs here:
Besides Bill and Wouter you guys have to remember that "there are thousands of ways to skin a cat" (pardon the pun) and no one, to my knowledge has, as yet, found the best way! It seems that semantics and minor differences create the greatest amount of "heated" argument when most of it won't amount to a "hill of beans" in 50 years time. Perhaps we should all try a little to keep it in perspective. If not lets all move to the middle east to live and continue the arguments. (At least there the one with the biggest gun could have the best argument?)
My own two cents come in the form of an old (probably true) story. It's about a great rabi who became crazy and all his disciples left him until only the first disciple - who also was an important rabi - remained. When people asked the disciple why he kept studying with a crazy man, he said that the master might be crazy, but HE was not: "I can tell when the genius is speaking and when the crazy man is, and learn from the genius only".
A wise man can learn from everybody, even from the crazy or stupid. It is up to each of us to separate the good and the bad and react positively to the good only.
It is good to learn from all of you, even when you are all mad

, so please keep feeding us with bits of your knowledge.
Take care,