Hi Ed, I like the tone of your reply. You come across to me as a guy who is sincerely trying only to get more participation with no outside or hidden agenda. I can relate to that! I teach the adult sailing class each year at my local sailing club and give rules seminars and run a great race each year with my sailing and life partner, Carol. I do this to "give back" to sailing. Same goes for the volunteer hours (and hours and hours) that I put in this year to coordinate the Mystere boat order. I like Mystere because you get so much for your money and I'm Known to be frugal! I like all nearly all makes of boats but feel like I cannot afford most of them as I would rather fund an early retirement! Next week I will have a long talk with Yves Sansoucy, President of Mystere, while I am there about these issues to see what they are planning to help get more people into a starter cat. I will report on what I learn when I get back a week from tomorrow. <br> <br><br><br>