Thanks Mike ,- <br> I am over reacting a little ,-sorry --do you know what the inside scoop is in Hobie class politics now , --all the references to the king ,and holding Hobie oriented regattas only , and dictating how local fleets conduct their regattas . <br> <br>-Raced H-18s for a decade ,then H-21s, but I,m out of the loop so to speak .The Fox seems to be not well accepted , the Tiger may be their only active current marketing push .--Can you suggest any way for this new 20 class to work with them . <br> <br>-Believe it would be best if they rethought the Fox and built a lighterweight higher performance version , --but doubt that this would happen , --it would save that class , <br> The Fox is an excellent basic design ,but at that weight and alum mast competing even up with c f masts , --well . <br> The marketplace and direct competition will demand greater effort from ALL mfg, and builders for better lighter higher quality cats.<br><br>