Scooby, yes, I trim the traveler to the main leach telltales but in big wind that is usually about a foot, like you said. I'd rather have it out a littl too much than in too tight, especially if it's gusty and I will be bearing off alot in each gust, that way I can concentrate on the real power, trimming the spinnaker. I just need one more hand or learn to work the traveler with my foot...