Then what is open ? Formula racing in itself is open class sailing,set a few parameters and bingo you've got boats with 15 years of technology or more between them on the line.Even by current standards there are consistant boat manufacturers that are winners and that being said with apparent equality of experience on the helm.Open formula serves a purpose,what is it then? And don't tell me resale of your present boat so you can go to the next popular class.You and Mary agree about the inferiority of "Handicap racing" but almost every race in Florida is handicapped and segregated by the boats measurements. I guess your formula racing needs Handicap racing to feed it.An omnipotent zero tolerance attitude towards any racing and that clubs efforts to put on the event, will squash it if there is not an inherant fleet of something to save it.Delray is an open agenda of 60 boats smack on the beach all year long. If the strongest fleets in the country are the one's with venues such as ours.What would you do in our situation starting all over with a clean slate. And again are you trying to push the F18 formula in the 1design group. And nice double Ditto Mary...