Well, this discussion has the potential to explode into a very large validation research. But such a thing will get beside the point.



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If you know of a better resource for drag prediction of slender hulls I’d like to hear about it, or better still experimental data.



The best experimental data I have is Bethwaite and the Miss Nylex C-class design article. Especially the last quantifies the different drag components. Here the wave-making drag (form drag)for the conditions in which the C-class races was given as 15 % while the wetted surface area drag (skin drag) was given as 22 % of the total drag of the whole boat.

To put things in perspective, the drag related to the rig itself was given as 30 %. The daggerboards at 21 %

I still value the C-class designers as the most scientificatlly oriented catamaran designers. It also squares nicely with what is known from other sources like Bethwaite and the design of mono-hulls. The model I described neatly fits all the experiences over a wide range of vessels.

Added to this the F16 experience itself. The F16 concept was developped fully based on the model I presented earlier. As of yet the F16 is doing exactly what it is predicted to be doing by the model and so in that experience I find no counterproof as of yet.

I don't know what kind of model your software is using. I would be interested in finding out what drag it predicts for a long flat plate dragged through the water. Good predictions are to be found for this situation to check the software itself.


Having said all this I spot a contradiction in your statements. You wrote :

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I say that on beachcats longer and lighter is always better for low drag at the speeds that count and that at 6 knots the wave drag is far from negligible.

In addition when you say that for a 107kg boat 5m is better than 5.5m I would say that that only holds true for speeds above 20knots, below 20 knots 5.5m is better. Although to be honest there is bugger all in it.



First you say it is far from negligible but later you say "there is bugger all in it", implying that indeed it is negligiable !

Please clearify.


Regards,

Wouter


p.s. I'm afraid that I won't be able to discuss everything in detail, I simply don't have the time for that.


Last edited by Wouter; 12/13/06 09:03 AM.

Wouter Hijink
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