| Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
[Re: grob]
#91881 12/14/06 04:10 AM 12/14/06 04:10 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe Wouter
Carpal Tunnel
|
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe | I guess my lack in mastering the english language in combo with my typing skills is to blame here.
the phrase :
No Grob, this is completely wrong and most fundamentally flawed scientifically. Wave-making drag INCREASES when the hull speed is lowered ? ...
Would have been better if written down as.
No Grob, this is completely wrong and most fundamentally flawed scientifically. It is illogical to claim Wave-making drag INCREASES when the hull speed is lowered. ...
Extra explanation
This would either mean that wave-making drag is high when the boat is motionless, which is to weird to consider seriously. Or for some weird reason is is zero when motionless then increases with speed only to decrease again after Froude's law max hull speed and possibly increase again with additional higher speed. This would be weird as that that would predict heavy monohulls to NOT be held back at the max hull speed rule of thumb as we know they are. Either way you run into a contradiction with well documented real life phenomena.
Also I've lost sight of my own "red line" now.
Basically my model is :
-1- Both wave-making drag and wetted surface drag increase with increasing boat speed. -2- Wetted surface drag is a significantly larger component at low speeds (below Froude's speed) -3- At higher speeds wave-making drag starts to become a significant factor when compared to wetted surface drag. The transition to this situation is to be found around the Froude speed. (and is what the Froude law actually says) -4- Overall wave-making drag on cats doesn't seems to be a very large component of the total drag. -5- Wave-making drag is not very dependent on hull length beyond a certain min prismatic hull ratio. -6- Wetted surface drag is always strongly dependent on the total wetted surface area.
Wouter
Last edited by Wouter; 12/14/06 10:21 AM.
Wouter Hijink Formula 16 NED 243 (one-off; homebuild) The Netherlands
| | |
Entire Thread
|
The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| jimi | 12/11/06 12:09 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Tornado_ALIVE | 12/11/06 12:57 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Tornado_ALIVE | 12/11/06 01:08 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Mary | 12/11/06 01:56 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Stein | 12/11/06 09:43 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| john p | 12/11/06 11:43 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Darryl_Barrett | 12/12/06 01:22 AM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Wouter | 12/12/06 09:14 AM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Tornado_ALIVE | 12/12/06 11:12 AM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Stewart | 12/22/06 03:45 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Timbo | 12/12/06 12:51 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| fin. | 12/12/06 01:27 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| grob | 12/12/06 02:31 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Eric Anderson | 12/12/06 02:56 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Rolf_Nilsen | 12/12/06 03:19 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Eric Anderson | 12/12/06 06:59 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Stein | 12/12/06 08:39 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| carlbohannon | 12/13/06 02:44 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Clayton | 12/12/06 03:22 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| pitchpoledave | 12/12/06 04:23 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| pitchpoledave | 12/12/06 04:24 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Stuart_Douglas | 12/12/06 04:44 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Rolf_Nilsen | 12/12/06 05:21 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Stein | 12/12/06 05:23 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Wouter | 12/11/06 02:10 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Kennethsf | 12/11/06 02:32 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| jimi | 12/11/06 03:15 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Mary | 12/11/06 03:24 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| jimi | 12/11/06 03:57 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| arbo06 | 12/11/06 05:42 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| arbo06 | 12/11/06 05:43 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Wouter | 12/11/06 04:39 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| jimi | 12/11/06 04:59 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Rhino1302 | 12/11/06 05:40 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Matt M | 12/11/06 06:01 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| fin. | 12/11/06 06:06 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| scooby_simon | 12/11/06 07:57 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| gree2056 | 12/11/06 07:58 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Stein | 12/11/06 09:28 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Hakan Frojdh | 12/11/06 09:56 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Wouter | 12/12/06 06:01 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Hakan Frojdh | 12/12/06 08:07 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Hakan Frojdh | 12/12/06 08:28 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Wouter | 12/12/06 08:31 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| macca | 12/13/06 02:24 AM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Stein | 12/12/06 08:47 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Hakan Frojdh | 12/12/06 09:23 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Rolf_Nilsen | 12/12/06 09:45 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Wouter | 12/12/06 11:27 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| bvining | 12/12/06 09:52 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Wouter | 12/12/06 09:49 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Stein | 12/13/06 12:03 AM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Will_R | 12/13/06 06:40 AM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Hans_Ned_111 | 12/13/06 07:39 AM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Wouter | 12/13/06 10:27 AM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| grob | 12/13/06 11:12 AM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Wouter | 12/13/06 12:45 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| grob | 12/13/06 01:29 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Wouter | 12/13/06 02:01 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| grob | 12/13/06 02:46 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Wouter | 12/13/06 06:40 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Luiz | 12/13/06 08:45 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Wouter | 12/14/06 07:28 AM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| grob | 12/13/06 09:42 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Wouter | 12/14/06 09:10 AM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Wouter | 12/14/06 03:50 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| grob | 12/14/06 10:51 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Wouter | 12/15/06 07:14 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Stein | 12/18/06 10:42 AM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Wouter | 12/18/06 11:11 AM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Stein | 12/18/06 11:50 AM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Wouter | 12/18/06 12:35 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| pdwarren | 12/18/06 01:17 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Wouter | 12/18/06 01:41 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Steve_Kwiksilver | 12/19/06 12:34 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| jimi | 12/19/06 04:06 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Darryl_Barrett | 12/20/06 12:16 AM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| valtteri | 12/18/06 01:59 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Stein | 12/19/06 08:14 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Wouter | 12/20/06 10:08 AM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Darryl_Barrett | 12/21/06 02:05 AM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| BobG | 12/21/06 03:52 AM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Darryl_Barrett | 12/21/06 03:59 AM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Wouter | 12/21/06 12:30 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Luiz | 12/19/06 07:43 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| grob | 12/18/06 12:28 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Wouter | 12/18/06 12:59 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Stein | 12/19/06 08:47 PM |
Showing there exist an optimal hull length ...
| Wouter | 12/20/06 10:23 AM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Wouter | 12/20/06 10:45 AM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Stein | 12/20/06 11:40 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Wouter | 12/21/06 12:50 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Darryl_Barrett | 12/22/06 12:27 AM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| john p | 12/20/06 10:20 AM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Wouter | 12/20/06 10:57 AM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| grob | 12/20/06 01:17 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| jimi | 12/13/06 11:14 AM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Wouter | 12/13/06 01:10 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| jimi | 12/13/06 01:40 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| JeffS | 12/13/06 11:21 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Wouter | 12/14/06 09:23 AM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Stein | 12/14/06 08:46 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Wouter | 12/14/06 10:08 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Stein | 12/14/06 11:05 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Darryl_Barrett | 12/15/06 12:39 AM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| dacarls | 12/13/06 03:57 AM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Rolf_Nilsen | 12/13/06 08:05 AM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| arbo06 | 12/12/06 11:51 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Wouter | 12/13/06 10:01 AM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Tony_F18 | 12/14/06 09:35 AM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| jimi | 12/14/06 10:13 AM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| macca | 12/14/06 12:37 PM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| johnelliott24 | 12/15/06 03:20 AM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| sail7seas | 12/15/06 03:56 AM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| arbo06 | 12/22/06 01:03 AM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| arbo06 | 12/22/06 01:13 AM |
Re: The ultimate beach cat, how light is possible?
| Jake | 12/22/06 04:31 AM | |
|
0 registered members (),
1,112
guests, and 30
spiders. | Key: Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod | | Forums26 Topics22,406 Posts267,061 Members8,150 | Most Online2,167 Dec 19th, 2022 | | |