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#10232 09/08/02 05:45 PM 09/08/02 05:45 PM |
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 397 Burlington, Vermont USA Kevin Rose
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Posts: 397 Burlington, Vermont USA | Add my vote to those who would like to shut the old forum down. In the response to the question in the polling booth, 60% of voters said that they would continue to visit catsailor.com and 26% said that they would come to the site more often. There were 23% who said they would no longer come to the site, but if they are the ones that are responsible for the embarrasingly rude behavior on the old forum, let them be gone.
I've found the new forum to be friendly, encouraging and helpful. It is only because of this new forum that I've continued to visit the catsailor site. Thanks.
Kevin Rose
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Burlington, Vermont
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[Re: David Parker]
#10237 09/09/02 08:08 AM 09/09/02 08:08 AM |
Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,355 Key Largo, FL and Put-in-Bay, ... RickWhite
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Posts: 3,355 Key Largo, FL and Put-in-Bay, ... | YOu are correct about the admin of the program. We can delete posts, track who is saying it, and other things. There is nothing wrong with having a "handle" and have you noticed there is little, if any, flaming and slamming on this New Forum.
Some of the Forums here do allow non-registered posting, i.e., Results, NORs and stuff like that. Again, we can control all of that. The program has a very good backside for administration.
One of the neat things is that if a given User posts something offensive, we can delete it and then notify that poster to not do it again.
If the User should persist we could simply bar that User from any more postings.
While the goal is to allow freedom of speech, we feel that freedom of speech with responsibility is very important.
Thanks
Rick | | | Re: old forum
[Re: tami]
#10239 09/09/02 09:44 AM 09/09/02 09:44 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 292 Long Island, NY Ed Norris
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Posts: 292 Long Island, NY | Hi Rick,
As an administrator, your posts/questions re: the old forum suggest that you see a possible upside in retaining the dialogue on the old forum, especially (I infer) if shutting it down will cause that lively discussion to move elsewhere. Yet you say the old forum is a headache to maintain.
Why not create a new "old forum" on this platform, with the same anonymous privileges now extant on the "old forum" - (except you will be able to find out who the truely egregious violators are.) Let it remain as ... er... freeform as it is now, and use the "forum description" to advise about the content. You could even switch on the "I am over 18" checkbox, to provide an additional fig leaf.
Import the last 5 threads on the old forum, using cut'n paste methods, since 20 posts doesn't justify paying for an import.
You're all done. Best 'o both worlds for you and for the hardcore (no pun intended) "old forumers"!
Sail Fast,
Ed Norris
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[Re: tami]
#10240 09/09/02 09:59 AM 09/09/02 09:59 AM |
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 397 Burlington, Vermont USA Kevin Rose
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Posts: 397 Burlington, Vermont USA | Tami,
When the new forum opened up it seemed that there was a lot of resistance from those who had regularly used the "old" forum. It seems that the two forums have evolved in different directions. The new forum has become, in my view, the place where new sailors (along with those new to catsailor.com) are attracted. The discussions on this forum have names (and, in many cases, faces). There is a genuine attitude of support and respect. The old forum has, in my view, become further entrenched in an attitude of arrogance and flaming, anonymous posts. It is unfortunate that it also remains the place where many of the top ranked sailors choose to participate. Those of us who prefer the "new" forum do not gain from their input. More significantly, however, is the way that those sailors can become labeled with the same negative stereotypes as the anonymous flamers that frequent the site.
Kevin Rose
N6.0na #215
Lake Champlain (New England's "west coast")
Burlington, Vermont
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[Re: tami]
#10241 09/09/02 10:53 AM 09/09/02 10:53 AM |
Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,355 Key Largo, FL and Put-in-Bay, ... RickWhite
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Posts: 3,355 Key Largo, FL and Put-in-Bay, ... | Perhaps Roberts posts on the old forum, but this forum by far offers more information to sailors. You really have to search on the old one to get any good conversations.., it's mostly just whining or complaining. Perhaps that is what we ought to name it: "Complaint Dept." instead of "Old Forum." Rick
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[Re: Kevin Rose]
#10246 09/11/02 06:54 AM 09/11/02 06:54 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | I still visit the old forum just to see if there is anything usefull there from time to time because you're right, there are two different groups that seem to use one forum but not the other. However, Kevin makes a good point that a lot of new folks post on that forum first and they don't get the kind of answers they could get here. I say let's do away with the old forum. The most usefull posters will likely migrate here and those with the biggest beef will either try to trash this one (but they can be deterred) or go away.
Jake Kohl | | | Good Point
[Re: MauganN20]
#10249 09/11/02 11:04 AM 09/11/02 11:04 AM |
Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,355 Key Largo, FL and Put-in-Bay, ... RickWhite
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Posts: 3,355 Key Largo, FL and Put-in-Bay, ... | I like that idea and will see if I can get it labeled in such a way.
And yesterday I modified the sites main template. Now Open Forum on the masthead takes you here. Before, in the same spot, was Old Forum. I moved that to the left-hand index under Forums in general.
Meanwhile, that opened up space to put our Great Links link on the masthead (where it really needed to be since there are around 3000 links in total and there are many good ones.)
So, when a new sailor comes aboard, the traffic will mostly be directed to this Forum by default.
Thanks,
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