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I20 #104949
04/27/07 10:40 AM
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What's so great about the I-20? Seriously.

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Re: I20 [Re: fin.] #104950
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Maybe not a job I guess, but looks like you need a new hobby. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

HEY.. with all the time you spend on the forum why don't you go sailing! You are in the perfect situation to do that! Singlehanded boat with no kids and your wife works all day!!!
Not meaning to call you out or anything, but thats what I would be doing if I were you... SAILING!

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Re: I20 [Re: fin.] #104951
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Have you been on one? Very nice boat to sail. There are really no other 20 footers out there that compare (for a reasonable cost)

Re: I20 [Re: fin.] #104952
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Re: I20 [Re: PTP] #104953
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Maybe not a job I guess, but looks like you need a new hobby. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

HEY.. with all the time you spend on the forum why don't you go sailing! You are in the perfect situation to do that! Singlehanded boat with no kids and your wife works all day!!!
Not meaning to call you out or anything, but thats what I would be doing if I were you... SAILING!


I usually work 3-11, Dave! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> The boat is 2 hours away. I work in the yard a little, surf the web a little and drink coffee a lot! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> That is my hobby!! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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Re: I20 [Re: fin.] #104954
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I don't know of any other production 20 footers for the most part. Can't compare it to the 6.0 for that reason. I think they are great boats (but too heavy <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> )
I like Tad's description of them being like an old Cadillac... but not in a derogatory way. I have only been on one once and it was blowing and I wussed out big time (ask Trey <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> ). Was a short wet ride.

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Have you been on one? Very nice boat to sail. There are really no other 20 footers out there that compare (for a reasonable cost)


I haven't had the opportunity, yet. The reason for asking is an interest in distance racing. Seemingly the Blade is really too small, for most people.

What are the negatives? It must be very difficult to right.

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Re: I20 [Re: fin.] #104956
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What are the negatives? It must be very difficult to right.


Its heavy, but not difficult to right. The carbon mast is beefy but it really only takes about 200 lbs dangling off the righting line to get her up. Trey has single-handedly righted it a couple times.

Another downside is that its pretty physically demanding on the crew. If you're in a race doing 4 laps, your crew is gonna be pretty tired from setting and snuffing the chute so often. That may just be me though.

For me, really, its the size, the stability, the bows that can push through most anything and to be honest, the great memories of an amazing 500 mile race that I've done on the boat that makes it what it is for me.

Its not everyone's cup of tea. The first time Trey and I sailed it I told him that "It was like being hung off the side of a runaway locamotive."

Again, I'm not pitching it as the solution to everyone's sailing niche <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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Have you been on one? Very nice boat to sail. There are really no other 20 footers out there that compare (for a reasonable cost)


I haven't had the opportunity, yet. The reason for asking is an interest in distance racing. Seemingly the Blade is really too small, for most people.

What are the negatives? It must be very difficult to right.


Pete:

They do real good in The Great Texas Race. Good stable boat from what I hear. We have 3 or 4 here. As for righting I don' know, they are a about the same weight as a Hobie 18 I think?

Doug

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Re: I20 [Re: fin.] #104958
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Well I guess I'll be the first one to bite the bait. Well maybe not the first.

It is very easy to sail fast. The 6.0 I had would and could sometimes be faster, but it took a lot more attention and effort to get it going that fast. I recall saying to my crew one evening, "Dude, this is a 6.0, this is not an acat, you had better stand up and put your weight into it!) On the N20 everything works the way it should work. There really isn't much redesign or tinkering needed. Rig, launch, and sail fast. I can't believe I didn't start this response with commenting on the bows. The buoyancy provided by the bows is un-matched in my opinion.

It would be nice if it were say 150#’s lighter.

That’s a few item for you all to begin masticating on.

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Re: I20 [Re: Chris9] #104959
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The N20 is a tank. Better stay out of its way, because it will cause some SERIOUS damage. That is the amount of power it has. 15kts of wind and the boat flies fairly darn easy. It is easy to control, easy to right and extremely powered up. You have lots of real estate on the tramp. It is a very well thought out vessel and I can only image the tweaked boats are even better.

The only con it is kinda heavy. I am not a big fan of SMOD eiether. But other than the boat the boat rocks.

Re: I20 [Re: MauganN20] #104960
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[quote. . ."It was like being hung off the side of a runaway locamotive."[/quote]

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Robi: Is it really any tougher than the Blade? With two people?

Re: I20 [Re: fin.] #104961
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I'm with Tad on this one. The I20 is a steamroller. Solid, stable and quick. The chute is a handfull for the crew, unlikely a female can take it. Very predictable in largeish surf. Great boat!

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Pete - Come up to Tampa one day and I'll take you out on mine. It will answer any questions you may have about what makes it so great. That is of course after I get new rudders, mainsheet, and bridle wires. Damn thieves!!!!!!!!!!


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Pete - Come up to Tampa one day and I'll take you out on mine. It will answer any questions you may have about what makes it so great. That is of course after I get new rudders, mainsheet, and bridle wires. Damn thieves!!!!!!!!!!


Ok, say when.

Re: I20 [Re: fin.] #104964
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I would venture out on a limb and say it is easier than the blade with two folks on board. Reason is the I20 is a lot bigger so you have a lot more room to work around the tramp compared to the blade which can get cramped every now and then.

You should surely take up on Karl's offer to take his out. It is a fun boat and very nimble with spin up as well.

Re: I20 [Re: fin.] #104965
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Do it!


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<img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> All in good time.

Re: I20 [Re: fin.] #104967
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I lot of dribble from sailors that have never even been on the boat. Sail the boat and you will see. It may not be for everyone but is sure a great boat to race when you are in a fleet. I do think the snuffer and self tacker have taken some of the skill out of it. I have been sailing the I20/N20 for 8 years with the 9th year coming up. Tad and Chris are on the money.

Re: I20 [Re: WindyHillF20] #104968
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I'm with Tad on this one. The I20 is a steamroller. Solid, stable and quick. The chute is a handfull for the crew, unlikely a female can take it. Very predictable in largeish surf. Great boat!


Females do just fine just ask my wife, easily on par with some of the male crews I've had on the front of the boat. But, the front of the boat will give you a workout and at the end of the day it is a boy boat.


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