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Getaway Performance Help, Please? #112404
07/23/07 09:56 PM
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I have a Getaway and am trying to improve my performance in hopes of some future racing.

Do you like the position of the stock tell tales? If not, where would you put new ones?

It seems that the jib sail shape is frequently poor. How do you position the jib on different points of sail (close hauled, beam reach, downwind (45 degress off the wind))?

What is your traveler position at different points of sail (beam reach and downwind (45 degrees off the wind)?

Do you have any good resources (books, internet sites, etc.) for performance tips on the Getaway?

Thanks, Doug

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Re: Getaway Performance Help, Please? [Re: duganderson] #112405
07/24/07 01:54 AM
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you'll want to get some of the books available on this site. you are asking basic questions that have the same answers for most cats.
you can put temporary telltails all over the sails and later take the ones that you don't use off. the ones near the top on the main help with the travler adjustments.

Re: Getaway Performance Help, Please? [Re: jollyrodgers] #112406
07/24/07 03:03 AM
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Getaway.....Performance......

I can't touch this one :-)


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Re: Getaway Performance Help, Please? [Re: Todd_Sails] #112407
07/24/07 07:48 AM
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It's all relative. The Wave class seems to be doing fine.

Re: Getaway Performance Help, Please? [Re: fin.] #112408
07/24/07 10:30 AM
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I had thought about saying something joking around about Getaways and performance but decided not to, I mean if this guy loves his boat and wants to make it go faster, that isn't any different that those of us with high tech performance boats, just his boat of choice is cheaper, tougher, and has built in beer coolers...


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Re: Getaway Performance Help, Please? [Re: gree2056] #112409
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. . . and has built in beer coolers...


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Re: Getaway Performance Help, Please? [Re: duganderson] #112410
07/24/07 01:15 PM
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Look into the books (Cat sailing for the 90's, and another I forgot the name of...) Once you get comftorable with the raceing techniques you could looking into a new sail (Squaretop?) or adding a spin.

For Me... it was about 2 to 3 years of expereince and listinting to a local sailing on how to go faster. I will eventually get a square top and Spin for my 18 but till then I will stick with my stock sails and keep on learing.

Todd


Sailing a 1980 Hobie-18M with 1990 hulls in Southern Louisiana.
Re: Getaway Performance Help, Please? [Re: Scubajeep] #112411
07/24/07 01:45 PM
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There is a Getaway-dedicated forum over at the Hobie site.

Tell tails? Certainly more would be better than the few stock ones. Here is a tell tail layout we had for the Hobie 16 worlds boats:

[Linked Image]

I like a couple of the leech tell tails. That can really show when you are under or over sheeted.

All of the books mentioned above are good for cat performance and would apply to the Getaway.


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Re: Getaway Performance Help, Please? [Re: mmiller] #112412
07/24/07 03:48 PM
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When I was young I messed with cars a lot. We had a saying. "In general. factory knows best".......you will find that Hobie have been around long enough to know where to put tell tails.
Learn to use the search engine here. put in things like "jib setting" "jib sheeting" or whatever and read and print off what is clear and put it in a clearfile.
Take two ideas onto the water each time out and try them.

Re: Getaway Performance Help, Please? [Re: gree2056] #112413
07/24/07 05:08 PM
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When I sailed the Ruff Rider distance catamaran race in 2002, I raced Portsmouth, cause there just arent that many Nacra 5.5u's in Texas with (or without, really!) spinnakers. Anyway, the hot new Getaways (hot from the rotomold, of course) were in the same class. Scott Kee the race director assured us at the skipper's meeting that due to handicap differences, "If you SEE the Getaways, you're losing". I saw them...when it got reachy and weedy they just plowed on. They took first and third in Portsmouth, if I remember correctly, with a Hobie 17 in between.

In related news, Jamie Gaines took 3rd of 12 boats sailing Portsmouth at the last open Hobie Mid-Americas, while only sailing three of five races, on, you guessed it, a Getaway.


Andrew Tatton Nacra 20 "Wiggle Stick" #266 Nacra 18 Square #12

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