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Re: Hobie 16's and 20's NA's [Re: DanWard] #113055
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He was clean?...Looks like he had to have been OCS.

And look who's there at the pin, Noriega, Figueroa...

Also look how far ahead the boat at the starboard end is in the second picture.

Right on, MISTER Bagley!!! Hooray for the little guy!


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Re: Hobie 16's and 20's NA's [Re: pbisesi] #113056
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You’re not kidding "a brass set" to port tack those guys! Truly a thing of beauty.

Re: Hobie 16's and 20's NA's [Re: pbisesi] #113057
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Gordo has done a lot for youth sailing in recent years.
Maybe a Karma thing.


Gordo left a message this morning and said something like,"I'm just glad my (youth,13 years old) crew had a good experience, that's the most important thing".
Pretty cool.

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Re: Hobie 16's and 20's NA's [Re: SurfCityRacing] #113058
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I was the 13 year old on the boat with Gordo. That first place finish is something I'm always gonna remember. It was tough staying up there in front of Mike Montigue. It was real nice how everyone came up and congratulated us. I appreciate Gordo for taking me on, this and one other were the only ones i sailed with him. Those two and one other regatta were my first hobie regattas.

Re: Hobie 16's and 20's NA's [Re: nickperez] #113059
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Congratulations Nick! Sounds like you have a promising future in sailing! It is guys like you that give our sport a future. I hope you continue to enjoy it for many many years

Checking weight of the Hobie16? [Re: Brian_Mc] #113060
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I saw on some of the pictures that they where checking the weight of the Hobie 16, why? Was it to check the building quality or do they need to add corrector weights on some boats because they are below minimum weight?

/hakan

Re: Checking weight of the Hobie16? [Re: Hakan Frojdh] #113061
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All the boats are weighed at every North Americans.

Some boats are underweight and need to carry corrector weights. (My 16 was 1 lb under last year and they made me carry a weight.)

Dan Ward's 17 was light at the event in Geneva and he carried a corrector weight.

My 14 was only 3 lbs over minimum - the lightest boat at the event.

Re: Checking weight of the Hobie16? [Re: mbounds] #113062
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In the gold fleet at Hobie 16 europeans you must use a brand new sail supplied by the factory including battens, but they don't check the weight of the boats!

I wonder why the weight is checked at the North Americans but not at the Europenas or the Australian and Asian championships?

/hakan

Re: Checking weight of the Hobie16? [Re: Hakan Frojdh] #113063
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They also weigh the crews. If I remember correctly, some of the hot Hobie babes had to tape weights to the pylons of their boats, because they were so light.

Re: Checking weight of the Hobie16? [Re: mbounds] #113064
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All the boats are weighed at every North Americans.

Some boats are underweight and need to carry corrector weights. (My 16 was 1 lb under last year and they made me carry a weight.)

Dan Ward's 17 was light at the event in Geneva and he carried a corrector weight.

My 14 was only 3 lbs over minimum - the lightest boat at the event.


What are the correct min weights for a 14. 16 and 17 ?


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Re: Checking weight of the Hobie16? [Re: scooby_simon] #113065
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The weight of the skipper and crew has always been checked so it meets the minimum weight on every major Hobie 16 regatta I've sailed, but never the weight of the boat.

During the Europeans they sometimes check the top boats skipper+crew weight after a days hard sailing and you must still be above min weight.

/hakan

Re: Checking weight of the Hobie16? [Re: Hakan Frojdh] #113066
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The weight of the skipper and crew has always been checked so it meets the minimum weight on every major Hobie 16 regatta I've sailed, but never the weight of the boat.

During the Europeans they sometimes check the top boats skipper+crew weight after a days hard sailing and you must still be above min weight.

/hakan


OK, but I would really like to know what the min weight of these 3 boats is.


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Re: Checking weight of the Hobie16? [Re: scooby_simon] #113067
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Hobie 16 has a minimum weight of 145 kg if my memory is correct. I'm not sure about the other boats.

/hakan

Re: Checking weight of the Hobie16? [Re: Hakan Frojdh] #113068
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Hobie 14 - 240 lbs / 109.00 Kg
Hobie 16 - 320 lbs / 145.15 Kg
Hobie 17 - 330 lbs / 149.70 Kg

Re: Checking weight of the Hobie16? [Re: Hakan Frojdh] #113069
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FYI, these are also in the class rules, not just for those three boats, but for all Hobies (OK, most Hobies, but not all the new Euro ones). Try this link, or go to hobieclass.com and surf for the class rules.

http://www.hobieclass.com/site/hobie/ihca/downloads/rulebook/IHCARBook070523.pdf


If you join the class association, you should get a hardcopy of these rules (a small book).

Hope this helps.

Mike

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Re: Checking weight of the Hobie16? [Re: Hakan Frojdh] #113070
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For what it's worth they DO check the weight of the boats in Australian championship events. When I went down there for the 2004/2005 H-18 Worlds, they weighed in every boat as well as the skipper/crews. It was obvious this was not the first time they had done a weigh in, because the Aussies had some very cool ways of adding weight to underweight boats, or for making up for underweight skipper/crews.

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The weight of the skipper and crew has always been checked so it meets the minimum weight on every major Hobie 16 regatta I've sailed, but never the weight of the boat.

During the Europeans they sometimes check the top boats skipper+crew weight after a days hard sailing and you must still be above min weight.

/hakan


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Re: Checking weight of the Hobie16? [Re: brucat] #113071
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Hobie 14 - 240 lbs / 109.00 Kg
Hobie 16 - 320 lbs / 145.15 Kg
Hobie 17 - 330 lbs / 149.70 Kg



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FYI, these are also in the class rules, not just for those three boats, but for all Hobies (OK, most Hobies, but not all the new Euro ones). Try this link, or go to hobieclass.com and surf for the class rules.

http://www.hobieclass.com/site/hobie/ihca/downloads/rulebook/IHCARBook070523.pdf


If you join the class association, you should get a hardcopy of these rules (a small book).

Hope this helps.

Mike


Thanks Chaps


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Hobie 16, "one design" or not? [Re: scooby_simon] #113072
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I sailed the Australian/Asian Hobie16 in Melbourne 2005 and they didn't check the weight of the boats during that regatta.

But is the Hobie 16 really a one design if you have to measure it before each major regatta?

/hakan

Re: Hobie 16, "one design" or not? [Re: Hakan Frojdh] #113073
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Virtually every one design class requires a measurement inspection at major events. For example, Lasers measure the angle of the rudder, the depth of the daggerboard, whether the sail has a measurement "button", etc.

I would much rather have my boat be built a little light and have to add weight than to be stuck with a heavy boat that I can't put on a diet.

Re: Hobie 16, "one design" or not? [Re: mbounds] #113074
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Also, Measuremnt will also include "compliance with the class rules".


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