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Re: more build pics [Re: RetiredGeek] #204822
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Fantastic looking boats Mr Geek! the kids who get to sail them are very lucky indeed!


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Re: more build pics [Re: Dazz] #204938
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Long have we waited but not in wain, they looks great.
Weight of the cat, is the 50kg min weight more or less all right?

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We haven't weighed them yet, but Billy thinks they are slightly under weight by a few kilo's

Re: more build pics [Re: RetiredGeek] #204973
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From the LR2 pictures it looks like the boat should sail in its longest waterline, not with the bow up atitude seen in the photos.
It might have happened due to the kid's lack of experience or because the tiller extension was too short, but perhaps the rear beam could be displaced forward to force them to seat in the right place? Or maybe that will be a problem downwind?


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Once the kids sit in the right position, Im sure the bow will sit in a bit further, probably doesn't help that Billy's son is 12 kg below what it was designed for either. If I have to change anything it will be to add a bit of volume aft but Im loath to do that as I wanted the boat to be largely pitchpole proof so we don't scare the kids while they are still learning.
We will learn more this weekend when they are out again and hopefully we will see a bit more breeze so that they can push the boats a bit harder.

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Originally Posted by RetiredGeek
Once the kids sit in the right position, Im sure the bow will sit in a bit further, probably doesn't help that Billy's son is 12 kg below what it was designed for either. If I have to change anything it will be to add a bit of volume aft but Im loath to do that as I wanted the boat to be largely pitchpole proof so we don't scare the kids while they are still learning.
We will learn more this weekend when they are out again and hopefully we will see a bit more breeze so that they can push the boats a bit harder.


Great news! It will certainly float on its design waterline with the right weight, more breeze and correct seating.

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I don't think you have to change anything. It's absolutly the same thing on both the Tabby and the DS 12, where you put the weight is of great importance and it takes a good part of skill to make the cat go fast. So may the best sailor, not the best boat win the race.

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Originally Posted by Gato
I don't think you have to change anything. It's absolutely the same thing on both the Tabby and the DS 12, where you put the weight is of great importance and it takes a good part of skill to make the cat go fast. So may the best sailor, not the best boat win the race.


Have since found out that Bill's son is only 36kg, so its no wonder its riding high. On the plus side even though there was little wind this past weekend, we found out that a 36kg kid can right the boat by themselves which is always good :-)
Hopefully the forecast 15-20 knots for this coming weekend will arrive and we can have some fun pushing the boats a bit :-)

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Good luck, the F12 is not a problem even for a kid in +15 knots. Some other cats can get difficult even for adults in +15 knots...

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here's a few more pics

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Re: Kiwi F12 Build Pics [Re: RetiredGeek] #207016
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Is that still a 7m^2 sail? It looks too big compared to the pic's of Gato's (or is Gato's too small?). Maybe it's just my eyes!

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yup...7m^2 and max luff length, foot is smaller than on boomed boats as the sheeting line goes from the circular traveller (fwd of rear beam) to the head to be able to maintain foot tension. That coupled with a slightly bigger head makes it look bigger than it is.

Re: Kiwi F12 Build Pics [Re: RetiredGeek] #231466
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for anyone interested, just found this on Trademe
Vudu - F12

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Interesting..I read the whole thread laugh.


Do it now,since nobody promised you tomorrow.
Re: Kiwi F12 Build Pics [Re: Nathaniel NZL] #232494
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Hay guys theres a sail world post about these boats.

http://www.sail-world.com/NZ/Junior-Training-for-the-Americas-Cup/83589


Do it now,since nobody promised you tomorrow.
Re: Kiwi F12 Build Pics [Re: Nathaniel NZL] #232526
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Originally Posted by Nathaniel NZL
Hay guys theres a sail world post about these boats.

http://www.sail-world.com/NZ/Junior-Training-for-the-Americas-Cup/83589


Great article!


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Re: Kiwi F12 Build Pics [Re: Luiz] #232582
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looking forward to seeing fleets of these

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If you could get a roto molded hulled boat at minimum weight to set up large fleets would they a peel to every one or just training academy's. is this good for the class as a whole, what do you people think?

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Originally Posted by catcruzer
If you could get a roto molded hulled boat at minimum weight to set up large fleets would they apeel to every one or just training academy's? Is this good for the class as a whole, what do you people think?


Inexpensive boats at low cost will appeal to many sailors. IMHO More F12s is good news for the class, regardless the brand or make.


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Re: Kiwi F12 Build Pics [Re: RetiredGeek] #239463
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