| Straight question to Macca #131493 02/14/08 07:48 AM 02/14/08 07:48 AM |
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Posts: 893 | Macca can I ask you a direct question, its neither slanging nor praising but I feel its a question that the forum users need a straight answer.
Are you professionally paid or associated through professional requirements to a catamaran manufacturer / s, if so would you declare which manufacturer that is.
Your answer may have quite a bearing on your forum messages.
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#131497 02/14/08 09:58 AM 02/14/08 09:58 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe Wouter
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Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe | That assumes that Macca (mr Andrew McP) is actually in Australia at this time !
He may be but he also may well not be !
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#131502 02/14/08 04:21 PM 02/14/08 04:21 PM |
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,528 Looking for a Job, I got credi... scooby_simon Hull Flying, Snow Sliding.... |
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Posts: 3,528 Looking for a Job, I got credi... | How about we focus on the issues rather than the personal attacks??
As far as I can understand it, you and Steven want to add weight to the F16, but are not class members. Most of the rest of us want to leave the class all up weight as it is. Fair summary?
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Posts: 1,121 Eastern NC, USA | My name is Tom Shannon.
I sail F16s recreationally in the Southeastern US.
I am a member of the US F16 Class Association.
I have no commercial interests in building, equipping or selling anything related to sailing.
I joined a "box rule/formula" class knowing that faster designs could be created (even using antiquated building materials/bypassing exotic materials) that met class rules.
I accepted this risk, in return for a boat that allows me to sail more often (1 up or 2 up). Being light factored into my decision of make/model of boat to purchase.
If someone would like to invest a fortune to beat me around the race course, then so be it. I'd call them an idiot, then buy them a beer and ask "why?".
Anyone else?
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#131507 02/14/08 05:10 PM 02/14/08 05:10 PM |
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Posts: 2,584 +31NL | Hi,
My name is Klaus... etc etc etc
Is this thread turning into an AA meeting? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> The only "commercial" relationship that I know of Macca is his sponsorship of Nacra (Right Macca?). As far as I know this would not conflict with the F16 class in any way as they are totally non-related (F18 vs F16).
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Posts: 3,348 | That and a number of other issues such as material restrictions and general tightening of the rules.
Maybe if the class is so concerned about the discussion they should take the forum to a class members only environment? I have a much better idea. | | | Re: Straight question to Macca
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#131509 02/14/08 08:35 PM 02/14/08 08:35 PM |
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Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe | My name is Wouter Hijink
I have no commericial ties to any boating related aspect, F16 ior otherwise.
I do have a strong personal tie to the F16 class by virtue of being a co-founder of that class and actually owning a F16.
I'm still paying some F16 class bills out of my own pocket, I consider that my class membership fee.
I believe in the open F16 forum were also non-F16 owning members can have their say.
I believe that people making strong claims or using harsh language should be prepared to be replied to in kind.
I also believe that everybody should fully identify themselves when making strong claims or proposing F16 rule changes.
I believe that we should not have ANY rule changes without having a clearly defined and well proven need to do so.
I have a very strong dislike of non-scientific discourse and most severely reject any unproofable "believes".
I believe it is foolish to regulate any millionair from spending his fortune on F16 BLING, such people will always find ways to waste money irrespectibally whether it actually leads to performance gains or not.
I believe the performance of a sailboat is governed by only very few basic parameters. Limiting these is enough to garantee fair racing between boats of different make, irrespectibally of how much money is spend.
I believe that a kilogram of aluminium weights just as much as a kilogram of gold and that economically speaking it is more wise to buy aluminium when presented with such a choice. This is called self regulation and it works !
I also believe that I have a full resume on mr. Andrew McP. (Macca) and some others but that it is more polite to allow these people to disclose their resumes and economical linkages themselves.
Wouter
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