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Internet Muppets #131628
02/15/08 04:05 AM
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In the UK we have a term for people who have little sense of humour or generally p*** people off, they are called "Muppets". Why is it that we seem to attract Muppets to this Forum like droves.

Take for instance last night, I made what I thought was quite a humorous comment about banning Aussies as they were causing problems, back came a muppet who thought I was being serious. Now being from the Antipodies myself the Aussies are great people who generally have a real and quick wit about them, where did we get him from.

My whole beef in this thread is to say to all, lighten up a bit, forums are supposed to be fun, a place where you banter each other and talk about commonalities, at the moment its all about " Muppets " putting pen to paper without thinking through their thoughts.

Now I have just had a thought, just maybe I have a screwed sense of humour, please someone out confirm that maybe is not the case. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

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Re: Internet Muppets [Re: waynemarlow] #131629
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I think the Aussie response is due to some run-ins that Wouter has had in the past on the Australian Taipan forum.

It is an open forum. Whoever registers really can post what they want.

Re: Internet Muppets [Re: taipanfc] #131630
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And that is exactly the sort of reply I am talking about, blaming Wouter for something that happened years ago, get real, this forum needs to talk about issues like boats, sail design, I'm having a great time in Barrier Reef, that sort of thing, not bitter and twisted issues that should have been dealt with years ago.

I'm fed up with people writing things without thinking what the consequences are ie putting brain in neutral and hiding behind the anonymous face of an internet Forum. Lets cut out the petty rubbish and start talking about real F16 issues.

Re: Internet Muppets [Re: waynemarlow] #131631
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I'm cynical and suspicious, maybe it just comes with old age. I think the intent of the thread in question is malicious. I've felt for a long time that for most, the F16 is a better platform than the F18, that the 16 will render the 18 obsolete, just as it did at Hobie.

To me, that thread is a hateful, "nip it in the bud" assualt on the F16 class. Happily, it is too little and much too late.

IMO, the intent is dishonest and speaks directly to the character of the writer.

Re: Internet Muppets [Re: waynemarlow] #131632
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Like I said in another thread, GO back and read the thread in question. Read it properly and you will see who is the antagonist, the one who is writing inflamatory remarks and generally dragging the discussion away from the topic


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Re: Internet Muppets [Re: macca] #131633
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No. You are not in charge here. Your intentions are transparent. Your efforts are wasted.

Re: Internet Muppets [Re: fin.] #131634
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I've felt for a long time that for most, the F16 is a better platform than the F18, that the 16 will render the 18 obsolete, just as it did at Hobie.


You have got to be kidding me!!!

If that is truly the attitude within the class then you are a lost cause.

When F16 yearly production amounts to 10% of the yearly production of F18 I will be amazed. Until then it will remain a figment of your very lurid imagination..


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Re: Internet Muppets [Re: macca] #131636
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Macca imm 10% of F18, it wouldn't surprise me if we are not there already, what are the exact figures of F18 production, at a guess I would be surprised if it were in the 200's pa, correct me if I'm wrong with an exact figure

Re: Internet Muppets [Re: waynemarlow] #131637
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200??? from one manufacturer? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Internet Muppets [Re: waynemarlow] #131638
02/15/08 07:35 AM
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Let's see...considering the F18's had a good 10 year head start and are built and supported by BOTH of the largest beach cat builders in the world, Hobie and Nacra, as well as several others, I would say the small but growing, F16 class is doing quite well, all with no support from either Hobie or Nacra...

And just like the A cats, Hobie 16's, Waves, etc. the F16 platform is NOT for everyone, "variety is the spice of life".

Personaly, I would not want us all to be limited to a sigle type cat, be it F16 or anything else, so as to which class is bigger or what ever, I really don't care, as long as I enjoy my ride! I like to see all the different types of cats and I enjoy sailing them all, when the conditions are right for that type.

You are wasting your time argueing with anyone who is not a class member and has no intention of becoming one...

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Re: Internet Muppets [Re: macca] #131639
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No from all manufacturers, its a serious question as I think people may not realise just how few F18's are sold each year.

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You are wasting your time argueing with anyone who is not a class member and has no intention of becoming one...


My intention is to uncloak, not argue. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

This, <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />, is all I have left for the fellow.

Re: Internet Muppets [Re: macca] #131641
02/15/08 07:53 AM
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Macca,

I have send you a private message offering the truce once more.

I see no point in furthering this situation that is in my eyes only causing you more personal damage.

This may sound weird to some but I learned that when the battle is lost that the losing party must be offered protection from further damage and safe passage out of the situation. That is what I'm offering you.

It is my sincere hope that you take us up on the offer.

Wouter

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Re: Internet Muppets [Re: Wouter] #131642
02/15/08 08:18 AM
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Strange how in some threads you state that you need top sailors on the F16's to promote them at big events and when you get one you do your level best to piss them off! Let's see the F16 demonstrate it's ability at Eurocat, Texel etc. this year rather than on this forum, surely that's the best way to win friends?
BTW MarkP, how is that flatter and faster mainsail? Hope no one minds that it was changed by a man with a strong link to Nacra!!!!

Re: Internet Muppets [Re: GBR6] #131643
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hey I have been beaten by the best of them.. Bruce "Miss Nylex" Proctor, Jim "home'n'hosed" Dachler, Brian Lewis & Warren Rock.. Does that count?

Re: Internet Muppets [Re: GBR6] #131644
02/15/08 10:21 AM
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Ssssssshhhhhhhhh. We've had our fair quota of Bun fights recently lets not start another. I'm hoping to check out my mainsail this Sunday as the previous race was called off due to 30+mph winds. I was also at a function in the Bristol Channel Yacht Club at the time getting very merry on Champagne. If the mainsail isn't as fast as I hope it'll be all your fault as in a previous post you mentioned I was over powered (which I was). I have also ordered a new custom made F16 Spinnaker from Grant Piggott and it will be ready prior to Carnac. The Luff is longer than my present Landy and it will also be a flatter cut than say a T or F18 it will be fairly similar to a Spitfire Spi.
As for making an impression at Carnac that will really depend on the conditions in my case. I reckon I could give most Club F18, Tornado sailors a run for their money when the wind is around 12mph i.e, I'm full out on the trap and their still sitting in. Any more and I hope the alterations to the mainsail will help my progress.
I'm not going to comment about pissing other sailors off!! I have my personal views on that topic and at present they will remain personal. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Don't forget to look at the F18 website, all the Mumbles events are posted on the Calendar so make sure you turn up as revenge is sweet <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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Hey Mark, I thought Sarah and I were banned!!! I love sailing at the Mumbles so will definately try and get there again this year, hopefully a few of your guys will make it over to our regatta too. Will be interesting to see how the new main works out, hope it is good. We also have a new main after a bit of an incident last nov.....
We'd like to do Carnac as well but I don't think the funds are going to stretch so will probably go to Bala instead. Wouldn't mind a go on your beastie next time I'm over though.........

Re: Internet Muppets [Re: GBR6] #131646
02/15/08 11:42 AM
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Bala!!! It's easier to get to Carnac <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> But saying that it'll probably be all I'll be able to afford next year, especially if Clare gets to hear about my recent purchases. As for the "ban" it terminates when you either cross the Severn Bridge or buy me a pint (The pint is the cheapest option) See you soon
Mark


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Re: Internet Muppets [Re: waynemarlow] #131647
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In the UK we have a term for people who have little sense of humour or generally p*** people off, they are called "Muppets". Why is it that we seem to attract Muppets to this Forum like droves.

Take for instance last night, I made what I thought was quite a humorous comment about banning Aussies as they were causing problems, back came a muppet who thought I was being serious. Now being from the Antipodies myself the Aussies are great people who generally have a real and quick wit about them, where did we get him from.

My whole beef in this thread is to say to all, lighten up a bit, forums are supposed to be fun, a place where you banter each other and talk about commonalities, at the moment its all about " Muppets " putting pen to paper without thinking through their thoughts.

Now I have just had a thought, just maybe I have a screwed sense of humour, please someone out confirm that maybe is not the case. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

Hi Wayne
From your reply last night to the Aussies ,and the way the thread was being taken by all concerned how else would you expect us to take it .Maybe a simply putting a few "Instant Graemlins" in your posts would help ,We cannot tell that you are laughing on your side of the computer screen
<img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Regards Richard

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