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Re: Alter Cup 2008 on the water reporting [Re: Robi] #140794
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Anyone know whats up with the boats..are they all sold or how much they're asking for them?



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Re: Alter Cup 2008 on the water reporting [Re: Mary] #140795
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Brief explanation of the A and B fleet. First race the fleets are divided by random drawing into A and B fleets. Teams in each fleet are scored 1-10. Top 5 from each fleet go to A fleet, bottom 5 go to B fleet.

From that point forward A fleet boats are scored 1-10, B fleet boats are scored 11-20. To get to A fleet you must finish 1-3 in B fleet. You get dropped from A fleet if you finish 8-10.

The idea is the top sailors spend more time sailing against each other.

Re: Alter Cup 2008 on the water reporting [Re: Robi] #140796
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Mary:

It is a new format that was first tried at the Alter Cup that I was regatta chairman at out of ABYC.

There is not the boat rotation at is prepared at the beginning of the event. Instead you take the bottom three teams from A Fleet and move them to B Fleet and the top three teams of B Fleet and move them to A Fleet. The first race of the regatta you take the top 5 teams in each randomly selected fleet and put them in A Fleet and the bottom 5 from each and put them in B Fleet.

Scoring will be finishes in each flight. A Fleet will get 1 through 10 and B Fleet will get 11 through 20.

This is a great format because you are sure to get the best sailors always sailing against the best sailors. Not so much the luck of the draw when you get put into a flight.

The trick is getting instant justice on the beach so you can send the next Fleet to the start line. If there is a protest or a redress that has to be hear before you can determine who is going sailing in the next race.

All in all it is very nice.

Dan DeLave

Re: Alter Cup 2008 on the water reporting [Re: BLR_0719] #140797
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I heard at GYC that as of last Sunday there were 3 left for sale, the rest was sold.

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Re: Alter Cup 2008 on the water reporting [Re: Dan_Delave] #140798
04/23/08 03:17 PM
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Thank you, Dan and USA 197.

Re: Alter Cup 2008 on the water reporting [Re: arievd] #140799
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last I heard only one boat is available for sale.

Top three in this fleet are.
Tomko
Figueroa
Matt/Seth.

Re: Alter Cup 2008 on the water reporting [Re: Dan_Delave] #140800
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Dan got it right - last year we changed the series so that B fleet sails first. This way we end with the championship deciding A fleet race.

Wild day today - will try to get a report up at US Sailing and Team Seacats tonight...need to go get dinner now (ate wayyy too late last night and gave me stomach issues!).


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Re: Alter Cup 2008 on the water reporting [Re: Robi] #140801
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Preliminary results as of today.
Nigel 6pts
JJ 12pts
Marshack 13pts
Andrew Waters 17
The Jasons 17
Brandon Wallace 18
Leandro 18
Tomko 20
Dingo 32
Krantz 34
GAllespi 34
John Bauldry 40
Figueroa 42
McDonald 43
Lynn Olson 48
Newkirk 49
Eric White 51
Brent Carlson 53
Evan Miller 55
Ken Hilk 67

That's all she wrote for today. We are al headed back to GYC for some serious grub.

Re: Alter Cup 2008 on the water reporting [Re: Robi] #140802
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How many total races were run today? Are the boats swapped at the club or at the public beach? Too bad it can't be done out on the water and get more races in.


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Re: Alter Cup 2008 on the water reporting [Re: Timbo] #140803
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How many total races were run today? Are the boats swapped at the club or at the public beach? Too bad it can't be done out on the water and get more races in.
Today there were four races. Two for A fleet, Two for B fleet. The boats are being switched around at the public beach.

Re: Alter Cup 2008 on the water reporting [Re: Timbo] #140804
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How many total races were run today? Are the boats swapped at the club or at the public beach? Too bad it can't be done out on the water and get more races in.


I was thinking about the years past where they did have to do the boat swapping on the water - but I was thinking to myself; "what a nightmare that must have been". We constantly deal with frayed trap lines and make a lot of tiny improvements that you might make to a new boat and/or sailor related failures that would be impossible to keep up with on the water. Spin halyard blocks have been the biggest nightmare over the last three years - replacing those on the water would be impossible and I can only imagine the delays related to regular maintenance.


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Re: Alter Cup 2008 on the water reporting [Re: Jake] #140805
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Nice Acat Jake

Re: Alter Cup 2008 on the water reporting [Re: bvining] #140806
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Nice Acat Jake


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Re: Alter Cup 2008 on the water reporting [Re: Jake] #140807
04/24/08 10:57 AM
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Sorry for the delayed updtae. I did not have a good signal out on the water.

B fleet just got done racing.
Team Zhik
Gillespi
Hilk

Fleet A is racing up next.

Re: Alter Cup 2008 on the water reporting [Re: Robi] #140808
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Awesome reporting job Robi! Thanks.

Only thing that could make it better is on-the-water video, podcasted interviews each day etc. Maybe next year! I've never been to Florida...

Re: Alter Cup 2008 on the water reporting [Re: TJP] #140809
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I just came in from sailing on my lake, about 85 miles inland from Gulfport. The wind is very gusty, holes all over the place, no wind one minute and a 20 knot gust the next! And some big shifts as well. The wind direction is basically NE but shifting to East and North, so it should be very interesting racing bouys like that, especially with all the condo's around there to mix it up. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Alter Cup 2008 on the water reporting [Re: Timbo] #140810
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Looks like the wind is definitely up and down, see the data from the bay monitoring station at the link below:
Boca Ciega weather station

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Re: Alter Cup 2008 on the water reporting [Re: arievd] #140811
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"B fleet just got done racing.
Team Zhik
Gillespi
Hilk"

GO RONDO (by proxy)!!!!!!!!

Mike

Re: Alter Cup 2008 on the water reporting [Re: brucat] #140812
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Who finished where in A fleet today?


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Re: Alter Cup 2008 on the water reporting [Re: brucat] #140813
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That would be ERIN Laporta!!! representing Area C

So... go Erin!


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