Hi, I'm a newbie to this forum, bought a 18ft Mystere, had it out at least 10 times, flipped once, with 2 (200lb) guys had exterme difficulty righting, anyone can help, can't find any info?? We have a divise at the top of the mast to stop the turtle. unclip the sails, and use our weight but still no luck, now we practice in 4 ft of water??any ideas would help please, thanks Paul
G'day CATastrophe if you do a search of this forum on righting you'll get heaps of info. The online store here sells righting poles and bags both will definately work and will show in the search. You've got your bows pointing into the wind, all sheets uncleated, Your standing on the tip of your centreboard and leaning back with your righting line loop around your trap hook. With two 200lb people it should pop up. regards
Jeff Southall Current boats Nacra 5.8 1703 Animal Scanning Services Nacra 5.8 1667 Ram Raider Nacra 18 Square Arrow 1576
You did release both the mainsheet and jib sheet, right? With 400 lbs. you two should be able to right just about anything, if you are doing it correctly. Make sure the mast tip is upwind, not downwind. About 45 degrees off dead straight upwind, so the wind can get under the mast and help lift it. How do you do this? Simple, you sit on the low bow and wait for the wind to blow the boat around so the mast is upwind, not downwind. And be ready to jump onto the low hull (to hold it down) as the mast comes up and over, as it may just blow right over again.
I think if you search You Tube, you might see a video of someone doing it correctly.
alright... quick question: How many of you stand on the tips of your daggerboards to right the boat? At 350-400$ a pop, I am too nervous to do it. I stand on the hull, which most of time works solo.
alright... quick question: How many of you stand on the tips of your daggerboards to right the boat? At 350-400$ a pop, I am too nervous to do it. I stand on the hull, which most of time works solo.
Well it depends on the board too, on an old Hobie 18 with short, fat boards, I would not hesitate to stand on the board even at the far end. On the Inter 20, maybe not all the way at the end but on any light, foam cored, carbon covered board (A cat, Blade) no way.
RIGHTING YOUR HOBIE On that reach ...flying through the air and water then... WHAM!!! Your Hobie Cat has forced you to swim instead of sail. Not really what you had in mind... if you have planned ahead you will be up and sailing again quickly. Whether sailing single handed or with a few friends, righting your boat can be quick and easy... First, preventing your mast from becoming one with the bottom, or turtling is a priority. We at Hobie have designed two mast floats to keep your Hobie Cat from becoming a mudhen . The floats attach to the top of your mast and will prevent the mast tip from sinking. The next objective will be to get back to sailing! Righting systems vary a bit but the theory is the same. A line is attached to your Hobie, thrown over the hull in the air and then weight (yours and or your friends) is used to lever the boat back to an upright and sailable position. After you have checked that everyone is OK, turn your hulls and mast into the wind (see diagram) and uncleat your sails. You and your friends now need to congregate on the hull that is in the water. Grab the righting line, lean away from the trampoline and get as close to the water as you can. Try to stay out of the water. If you don t have enough body weight to right the cat we have the Righting Bucket! Just attach it to the boat, with the hook that is provided, throw over the upper hull and fill the bucket with water! With the bucket strap over your shoulder, lean your weight out from the boat. The bag comes clear of the water and up the cat will come!! Grab the dolphin striker or crossbar as it comes up, climb aboard, sheet in and GO! Tipping your Hobie over can be a great way to cool off and enjoy the water... try it! It's excellent practice for when you weren't planning to go for a swim but your Hobie decided that you needed to cool off!
WHAT ABOUT POWER RIGHTING? SHEET IN THE MAIN AND STAND ON THE TRAVELER (SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS)as the boat comes up you scoot around the rear beam and sheet out.... Bill Roberts can elaborate on the correct tecnique.
alright... quick question: How many of you stand on the tips of your daggerboards to right the boat? At 350-400$ a pop, I am too nervous to do it. I stand on the hull, which most of time works solo.
I was worried at first PTP but couldn't right my Stingray which was 18ft 170kg all up. As you go further out on the board you'll soon see whether it flexes too much, if at all and you get an enormous amount extra leverege between standing on the hull and pulling nearly straight down as opposed to leaning out from the end of the board and pulling sideways. Even when I put the righting pole on the stingray for solo righting, I had to go off the end of the board for the leverege. CATastrophy even though you have the anti turtle is your mast top still sealed and the anti turtle devise, if thats foam is it dry and light not water logged as that bit of weight can add a lot of leverege against you 30ft out. regards
Jeff Southall Current boats Nacra 5.8 1703 Animal Scanning Services Nacra 5.8 1667 Ram Raider Nacra 18 Square Arrow 1576
The top of my mast is not sealed on a Mystere cat, so you're right the problem is that extra 30-50lbs of water in the end of the mast is causing major problems.I have what appears to be a bouy type from a boat customized at the top, holding it's own and not leaking. so i think with a little more experience, that means more time in the drink, i may get a handle. Our lake is 5x7 miles and typically someone is out to help, but i don't wan't to rely on them. You can see this, attached picture! thanks Paul
Definately seal the top that will give you more bouyancy than the float. Thats a good looking boat with the big arrow shapes in the sails, it looks like there wasn't much wind when the photo was taken, was that when you had the trouble as more wind lifts the sails when they clear the water and help you right the cat. regards
Jeff Southall Current boats Nacra 5.8 1703 Animal Scanning Services Nacra 5.8 1667 Ram Raider Nacra 18 Square Arrow 1576
Not quite concrete when I got her she was in a bad way, side of one hull had folded and the decks had let go. The foam had absorbed water that they never let out again. I put a series of bulkheads through with foam under the decks plus the cloth and resin. I probably added 10kg but she was always heavy which didnt worry me as I sailed her with my 10yo daughter and the extra weight settled the big rig down. That weight included everything I used on the water sails, mast etc. regards
Jeff Southall Current boats Nacra 5.8 1703 Animal Scanning Services Nacra 5.8 1667 Ram Raider Nacra 18 Square Arrow 1576
WHAT ABOUT POWER RIGHTING? SHEET IN THE MAIN AND STAND ON THE TRAVELER (SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS)as the boat comes up you scoot around the rear beam and sheet out.... Bill Roberts can elaborate on the correct tecnique.
Please elaborate, the only power righting technique I know about is the one explained in Rick's book, and it says nothing about sheeting in! Inquiring minds would like to know...
We typically have this weird wind close to shore, gusts, then it changes fast, yes it happened close to shore that day we flipped, the wind was poor in that picture but we are still learning. Don't think i trust myself in gail winds, yet. I have more hollidays coming this weekend, I'll flip her over in shallows and have a good look at the end the mast, not sure what if anything i can do, but it's worth another look. thanks Jeffs
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