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Where can you get carbon rudders for Infusion #156073
09/28/08 09:58 AM
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A friend of mine looking for carbon rudders for his nacra infusion, and asked me to find a pair. Any idea where?


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Re: Where can you get carbon rudders for Infusion [Re: CatSailingHu] #156074
09/28/08 09:31 PM
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Carbon rudders? They are carbon, not sure if they are 100% carbon, probably not. If you want a carbon looking rudder just ask Performance to make some with clear gelcoat.

Re: Where can you get carbon rudders for Infusion [Re: pitchpoledave] #156075
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or sand the gel coat off and add carbon.

Re: Where can you get carbon rudders for Infusion [Re: CatSailingHu] #156076
09/29/08 09:00 PM
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At the carbon store you big lug! Gosh......

Re: Where can you get carbon rudders for Infusion [Re: arbo06] #156077
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thanks to all for the answers.

special thanks to arbo06...


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Re: Where can you get carbon rudders for Infusion [Re: CatSailingHu] #156078
09/30/08 03:44 PM
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Hi Sanyi,
Have you tried to contact Andras about the foils ? He was of great help for me and I remember that he mentioned something about carbon foils at one point (like making them in Hungary).
Regards,


Florin
Re: Where can you get carbon rudders for Infusion [Re: isvflorin] #156079
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Maybe a dumb question but why would you want carbon rudders on an Infusion?
IMHO the standard ones are fine as they are and are already reinforced with carbon.
If his money is burning a hole in his pocket tell him so send it to me <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Re: Where can you get carbon rudders for Infusion [Re: CatSailingHu] #156080
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smooooooch! Good luck though.

Re: Where can you get carbon rudders for Infusion [Re: Tony_F18] #156081
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Hi Tony, of course not a dumb question. The stocks ones work fine for me, so

- I'm not want to replace my rudders --> but a friend.
- He think about it because the stock ones he got are really noisy over 8-10kts
- I recommended he to sand the trailing edge of the foils, a bit asymmetrical, he tried, but it became even noisy. Today he will try it reshape again, like THIS.
- He think a stiffer rudder will not resonate, so it is also an option.
- Otherwise I had no information about the stock ones are reinforced.

regards
Sanyi


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Re: Where can you get carbon rudders for Infusion [Re: CatSailingHu] #156082
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Actually, a stiffer rudder will resonate more!

you just need to make the trailing edge a bit thinner, I do it with all my blades and it takes about 30 seconds per blade, so no excuses.


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Re: Where can you get carbon rudders for Infusion [Re: macca] #156083
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Today he will try it reshape again, like THIS.


Thanks for linking that article. It gives me a good place to start finding out where my problems with screaming boards are and how to fix em.

Re: Where can you get carbon rudders for Infusion [Re: CatSailingHu] #156084
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I've had some success with noisy foils by eliminating some of the hollow in the rear of the foil shape giving them more of a traditional shape. I don't know if the hollows were intentional or not. To see if you have them, hold a straight eged horizontally against the foil (in the direction water will flow). If you see a point where the foil pulls away from the straight edge leaving a "hollow", fill it and fair it.


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Re: Where can you get carbon rudders for Infusion [Re: macca] #156085
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Thinner?


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Re: Where can you get carbon rudders for Infusion [Re: Jake] #156086
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I've had some success with noisy foils by eliminating some of the hollow in the rear of the foil shape giving them more of a traditional shape. I don't know if the hollows were intentional or not. To see if you have them, hold a straight eged horizontally against the foil (in the direction water will flow). If you see a point where the foil pulls away from the straight edge leaving a "hollow", fill it and fair it.


The hollow in the rear section of the foil is there for a reason!
If you change it you are reducing the "grip" of the water on the blade.

Just file the training edge a bit thinner and then look after it.


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