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Re: Anybody else unemployed? [Re: Tony_F18] #163008
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Industrial Gas mechanic, and cryogenic plant operator.


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Re: Anybody else unemployed? [Re: F-18 5150] #163010
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As a matter of interest. What do any of you know that just keeps growing..unchecked, without getting unstable and collapsing? Why do rabid capitalists think that never ending economic growth is possible? Because they are short lived biological organisms who want power and money for themselves right now! That is the mental idea, trusting super rich to be honest and responsible!!

Welcome to socialism guys. Like it or not the West is about to grow up with any luck and I expect it will be painful.
12 trillion dollars of debt has been realised but not all secured and there is another 20 trillion to come! : ) It has only just started.
If the US etc just keep printing money it will slip into a hyper-inflationary economy and it is Zimbabwerama for all of us.

For what it is worth I bought gold.

Expect social unrest and very angry people when the real damage is realised.

The French might be derided by the US but they invented our individual freedom with the creation of meritocracy by the chopping off of a whole lot of rich and powerful heads...I say it needs to be done again to remind them of the dangers of treating everyman with such contempt.

No doubt I will be thought crazy but a whole lot of heads on spikes at the outskirts of the city will have a better effect than long drawn out court cases and light punishments for too few.

There will be a social cost created by these men and women that is outrageous and I for one would be happy to get the big blade out.

Re: Anybody else unemployed? [Re: hobie1616] #163012
12/18/08 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by hobie1616
Karl, remember Forrest Gump. His shrimp business sucked until the hurricane wiped out all the other boats. If the heavily leveraged shops go under you become the only game in town.

There are no problems, just opportunities.


I hear ya, and that's kinda what I've been banking on. Keeping my overhead super low, all my equipment is paid for etc. But its starting to get rough for me. The nicest thing about having a 1-2 man operation, is that it doesn't take a heck of alot to get and stay busy.

Warbird- buying gold is definetly a good plan. Silver isn't a bad investment either. Gold has been on the climb since early November, it was down around $740/oz (USD), but a few months earlier it was over $900, (around $930 I think I saw it top out at). Gold will always be worth something, even if currency fails in a severe economic collapse. So will whiskey, and bullets for that matter.

Re: Anybody else unemployed? [Re: warbird] #163013
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Originally Posted by warbird
As a matter of interest. What do any of you know that just keeps growing..unchecked, without getting unstable and collapsing? Why do rabid capitalists think that never ending economic growth is possible? Because they are short lived biological organisms who want power and money for themselves right now! That is the mental idea, trusting super rich to be honest and responsible!!


One thing is that there is always more people. With a steady population the end result of capitalism is a monopoly on everything. Wall-Mart is pretty much a poster child for capitalism. Whether or not its a good thing, I don't know.

Re: Anybody else unemployed? [Re: Karl_Brogger] #163015
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"Will sail for food" Can anyone spare a buck? Please send all donations to the "Rich Vilvens save a Tiger fund"


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Re: Anybody else unemployed? [Re: F-18 5150] #163016
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My goal is to once again see large packs of tigers roaming free all over the world. So I call my fiber glass guy a vet, and the PRO a pack leader, and the lakes and bays we sail Tiger refuges, then start collecting donations. I'll list Jeremy at surf city as a "Tiger Breeder " releasing new tigers to the wild with their sponsors. This should work for about 3 years then its off to prison for fraud. Anyone know a good lawyer?

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Re: Anybody else unemployed? [Re: Karl_Brogger] #163018
12/18/08 11:28 PM
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I bought gold @ 890 but I did that as I expected the NZD to drop and to wait would make me pay more as gold is in USD.
I am 35% ahead even with the drop to 750 because of the exchange rate dropped way more but now gold is climbing again I think I will get a double win as even though the NZD has jumped this last week, it will not last as we are a country that has been creating private wealth in the housing market and actually producing nothing.
Apart from dead animals we have no economy.
Really I have done it because back in August I was clear the banks would fall and I even took a lot of cash out just to have under the mattress.
They say the NZ banks are safe but I do not believe a word of it.
I am self-employed and used to living on light funds and I have not built a "safe for retirement" portfolio so I cannot really understand how the cheated feel but if it was me, I would be looking up addresses.

I think it is simple. If they are not punished severely why should they not do it again? I would. Trusts need to be broken down to the actual user of the funds and hidden money taken and ALL assets taken and at least hard labour for life working to pay what has been taken so cynically. If they don't think that's fair give them a gun and a bullet.

It is going to really PMO watching high end lawyers dragging this out and all of the lip service given to "regulating". Keep it simple. Steel-pay the price. Steel lots-pay a bigger price.

Re: Anybody else unemployed? [Re: F-18 5150] #163019
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Tiger Breader


Breaded Tiger? (...in the process of deleting all wisecracks that I wanted to post about the new fast food that bites back)

Actually, J should be appreciated for having a biz plan that keeps overhead low. Something it would be nice to see more of. Like in the auto business.

Suspect, however, there are many businesses that are doing well. But they don't get recognition. A lot of this is mind games. There are a lot of businesses doing well.



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Re: Anybody else unemployed? [Re: JJ_] #163045
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Yup I f----d up there but oh well maybe thats why in unemployed. Yes Jeremy does do a good job A small shack as an office and Using his friends / customers to build and store boats. He also takes care of his customers well and supports the racing alot. He supplies chase boats and committee boats for alot of races. Along with John at WindToys. We are lucky here in Cali to have such great dealers.


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Re: Anybody else unemployed? [Re: F-18 5150] #163125
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Hey Rich, what's "Windtoys"??? Inquiring minds in Northern California want to know!!!

Ryan
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P.S. Sure wish you'd bring that Tiger to Whiskeytown, I want a ride!!!!!
Maybe next year, the 45th Whiskeytown Regatta!!!!

Originally Posted by hobie18rich
Yup I f----d up there but oh well maybe thats why in unemployed. Yes Jeremy does do a good job A small shack as an office and Using his friends / customers to build and store boats. He also takes care of his customers well and supports the racing alot. He supplies chase boats and committee boats for alot of races. Along with John at WindToys. We are lucky here in Cali to have such great dealers.


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Re: Anybody else unemployed? [Re: RyanMcHale] #163128
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Wind Toys is the Hobie Dealer in Santa Rosa. I had the tiger at whiskey town a few times this year. I'll try a few more times once I get my leg better.


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Re: Anybody else unemployed? [Re: F-18 5150] #163129
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Heck I've been known to go out in the middle of winter too just for the fun of it.


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Re: Anybody else unemployed? [Re: F-18 5150] #163130
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Did I miss something? I don't recall seeing you talk about leg damage!!! BTW, I'm unemployed too, somebody need a good PC Desktop Support Guy that likes to sail??? I have my own boat, but I'll boat whore if I need to!!!!


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Re: Anybody else unemployed? [Re: RyanMcHale] #163133
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I blew my knee out. I'm looking at a mri early next week, the doctor thinks I need surgery to put it back together. But I'm hoping its not that bad and won't have to miss alot of time.


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Re: Anybody else unemployed? [Re: F-18 5150] #163134
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Damn, what a drag, so if you need somebody to sail your boat while you get better, I'm available!!!! laugh


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Re: Anybody else unemployed? [Re: RyanMcHale] #163136
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Yea you and Jeremy both volunteering. He wants me to bring the tiger, rig it, supply my crew, and run the committee boat. Then derig it and haul it home. I let him "Rock Star " one weekend and now he expects it.


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Re: Anybody else unemployed? [Re: RyanMcHale] #163140
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Originally Posted by RyanMcHale
Hey Rich, what's "Windtoys"??? Inquiring minds in Northern California want to know!!!

http://www.windtoyswatersports.com/

It looks like they've given up on cats and have gone kayak.


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Re: Anybody else unemployed? [Re: hobie1616] #163144
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John is still active with the cats volunteering his chase boat and committee boat for the bodega bay regattas and making donations to alot more. Also provides boat storage and refurbishment on site.


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Re: Anybody else unemployed? [Re: F-18 5150] #163146
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Rich- You're really bored aren't you? You've been on here all evening. Don't worry, I have no life either, and I don't even have an injury. smile

Re: Anybody else unemployed? [Re: Karl_Brogger] #163147
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I live here now.


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