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Asuncion, Paraguay | According to someone who read The Daily Sail, it recently pointed out that the F18 worlds gathered 160 participants, even after the number of competitors per nation was capped.
For instance, it would seem that the UK was only allowed 20 entries, so 30 boats had to compete for the right to participate.
Compare this with:
- 32 participants at the 2009 18 foot skiff "worlds", the JJ Giltnan Cup
- 80 participants at the 2008 49er worlds in Melbourne
- 110 participants at the 2008 Star worlds.
So much for ISAF's assertion that there is no interest in multihulls!
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Asuncion, Paraguay | Yes, but the H16 should be compared to the Laser, both being one manufacturer boats.
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Columbia South Carolina, USA | So maybe F18 is the right boat for the Olympics...
The men were amazed, and said, "What kind of a man is this, that even the winds and the sea obey Him?" Matthew 8:27
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Sebring, Florida. | For clarity, is a "participant" a single boat, or are the participants the two sailors?
20 Lasers = 20 sailors, 20 F18's = 40 sailors. So which is the Participant, the boat or the sailor?
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Annapolis, MD | So maybe F18 is the right boat for the Olympics... if popularity is your criteria... it's a Hobie 16!
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Netherlands | According to someone who read The Daily Sail, it recently pointed out that the F18 worlds gathered 160 participants, even after the number of competitors per nation was capped.
For instance, it would seem that the UK was only allowed 20 entries, so 30 boats had to compete for the right to participate.
Compare this with:
- 32 participants at the 2009 18 foot skiff "worlds", the JJ Giltnan Cup
- 80 participants at the 2008 49er worlds in Melbourne
- 110 participants at the 2008 Star worlds.
So much for ISAF's assertion that there is no interest in multihulls!
You forget the A-class. Last Worlds 2009 in Australia 100 boats ( max allowed). Europeans A-class in France 89 boats. Worlds in the US end 2007 around 90 boats from all over the world. The up coming Europeans in Austria expected number around 90 again. So this is also a multihull class where ISAF could see that there is interst in mutlihull sailing. Hans | | | Re: F18 Worlds - a statement of multihull strength
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Clermont, FL, USA | I think the point here is multi's get numbers and ISAF needs to recongize that along with the IOC.
David Ingram F18 USA 242 http://www.solarwind.solar"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall "You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"
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South Carolina | I think the point here is multi's get numbers and ISAF needs to recongize that along with the IOC. ] Makes me wonder if we're actually the minority we are presumed to be...or if we are just the minority in the leadership of the sport. We have both a perception and an organizational problem. Easy to talk about - hard to fix.
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Detroit, MI | H16 didnt thay cancel their world championships this year? That was more about the economy than anything else. H16 Worlds are sailed in provided boats. Hobie Cat Europe was concerned they wouldn't be able to sell the 60+ boats in a reasonable time after the event. | | | Re: F18 Worlds - a statement of multihull strength
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Columbia South Carolina, USA | Is there anyway to get a multihull selection other than going thru US Sailing? Seriously Does ISAF ONLY recognize them as the "Governing Body" for the US?
The men were amazed, and said, "What kind of a man is this, that even the winds and the sea obey Him?" Matthew 8:27
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South Carolina | Is there anyway to get a multihull selection other than going thru US Sailing? Seriously Does ISAF ONLY recognize them as the "Governing Body" for the US? Multihull selection for what? If you're talking about the Olympics, US Sailing is only one of the many national organizations that votes for the Olympic boat selection. Our problem is our reps maneuvered some tricky new voting rules and they did not vote for the multihull in the final outcome. Other countries did not vote for the multihull as well.
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| So maybe F18 is the right boat for the Olympics... Be careful what you wish for...Good to remember that the Tornado One Design historically had several manufacturers and large fleets...
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Clermont, FL, USA | The boat selected will be OD. Only the Tiger has a shot as far as F18's go.
David Ingram F18 USA 242 http://www.solarwind.solar"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall "You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"
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Sebring, Florida. | The Tiger? Nah, that would make too much sense. The IOC would probably pick some obscure or non-existant French cat, just like they did for the youth cat!
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